Underpaid careers

[redforever]

Originally Posted by MJK

Actually, although a paycheque comes in during the summer, that money has been held back every paycheque while working during the year. So teachers do not get paid for being off in the summer.

Exactly. You do not have to be a quantum physics scientist to understand the principle involved.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by kevman

So teachers get paid for the time they work and that's not fair??? I'm confused... In my opinion they shouldn't get paid for the summer because they are not working in the summer. Making $40,000 for 10 months of work isn't too shabby. Or if you choose to have your pay cheques distributed throughout the year making $40,000 for 10 months of work and 2 months of paid vacation isn't too shabby either...

Maybe it's just me but I feel I'm paid what society values my time at.

This is not the point. Yes, that is what teachers are paid for, they are paid for the days that they have worked and of course that is the fair way to compensate people for working. BUT too many are under the impression that just because they get paid over the summer months, they are getting paid for time they do not work. This of course is not the case. They only get paid over the summer months if they have asked for their remuneration to be divided over 12 months instead of 10 months.

Because of the averaging of pay, many in the public think they are actually being paid in the summer months for not working. They get paid for when they work, just like anyone else does.

[RougeUnderoos]

Daycare employees are seriously underpaid. Like fast-food money, if that.

The Herald classifieds are currently offering several jobs for a live-in nanny that pay about $7.50 an hour.

Won't somebody please think of the children?

[metallicat]

I actually think teachers are underpaid. I owe teachers a debt of gratitude. It's only because of my English 30 teacher that I was able to do well on the departmental exam, and get into post secondary schooling. She was hot too.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Daycare employees are seriously underpaid. Like fast-food money, if that.

I totally agree with this sentiment. Do you want the people responsible for the safety of your children to be paid less than someone whose only real responsibility is cooking/assembling hamburgers?

[@theCBE]

Originally Posted by MacDougalbry

It is hard to get a full time shift, mostly the Health Region creates these stupid part time positions and then tries to manage the workload by calling people at 6AM for extra shifts (which they don't have to pay overtime because you aren't working full time to begin with).

The people who's job it is to call the nurses at 6 a.m. are by far the most underpaid ... I was one for 2 years. Our office continually had people on stress leave. We got yelled at by: nurses that didn't want to work. Managers that wanted us to get a over-worked nurse in to work within 5 minutes but refused to allow us to pay the nurses overtime to entice them to come in. More nurses because they are ****ed off we called their co-workers to come in for overtime before them. I got yelled at by a nurses husband at least once a week for calling so early in the morning or so often.. and then i'd get yelled at by his wife the next day because I didn't call her for an extra shift.

[moon]

EMT and Firefighters are at worst paid right and if anything overpaid. Must be nice to watch TV and hang out, go out on two calls that involve bringing Grandma to the hospital because she thinks she is having a heart attack and then go have a nap before going home.

Plus anyone talking about Teachers pension should also lump any government workers in there as Nurses, Firefighters and EMT's aren't exactly struggling to get through their retirement.

I understand that at times there are tough situations like in any job but I have little to no patience to hearing them whine about their jobs when you see what the day to day life is like.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by moon

EMT and Firefighters are at worst paid right and if anything overpaid. Must be nice to watch TV and hang out, go out on two calls that involve bringing Grandma to the hospital because she thinks she is having a heart attack and then go have a nap before going home.

It also must be nice for those lazy firefighters to turn off the tv and run out the door to put out the fire that is burning your house down.

I don't know about Lethbridge, but the EMTs aren't sitting around picking their noses and waiting for Granny's faux-gripper in Calgary. We don't have enough of them.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Reaper

I totally agree with this sentiment. Do you want the people responsible for the safety of your children to be paid less than someone whose only real responsibility is cooking/assembling hamburgers?

You are dead on the money. Why are our children, the care of our children and the education of our children held in such low regard?

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by moon

EMT and Firefighters are at worst paid right and if anything overpaid. Must be nice to watch TV and hang out, go out on two calls that involve bringing Grandma to the hospital because she thinks she is having a heart attack and then go have a nap before going home.

Plus anyone talking about Teachers pension should also lump any government workers in there as Nurses, Firefighters and EMT's aren't exactly struggling to get through their retirement.

I understand that at times there are tough situations like in any job but I have little to no patience to hearing them whine about their jobs when you see what the day to day life is like.

Calgary EMS has already had four red alerts (which means 0 ambulances for just over a million people) this month...trust me, they're not sitting around. True, there are times (and firefighters probably get the most of this) where they do sit around and may not go on a call all night. But, they don't get paid to sit there...they get paid to be available and go on a drop of a hat. And, in all honesty, I don't think you can pay people enough money to even think of going into a burning building to save a total stranger...but, as I said, I'm biased.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by return to the red

nearly half the people living in Lethbridge are underpaid.

My sister works as a teacher In Calgary and $70k a year blows my salary out of the water.

It's not that impressive when you think of the cost of living compared between the two cities.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by redforever

Exactly. You do not have to be a quantum physics scientist to understand the principle involved.

Well, regardless of how fair we feel a teachers salary is, you have to admit that getting 7 weeks off every summer has factored into just about every teachers decision to go down that path. Their annual salaries are usually fair, and tend to go up a decent amount every year.

[Bobblehead]

One year I lived 1/2 block away from a firestation. You have no idea how many calls these guys go out to an a regular basis.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

If I had to pick one profession to get a pay-raise...it would be licensed child-care workers no question, IMO a solid child care system is a foundation in a socially responsible innovative economy...when child care workers "are thinking Arby's [as a career upgrade]" there is a major problem...

Teachers and Soldiers would be my second choice...

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Well, regardless of how fair we feel a teachers salary is, you have to admit that getting 7 weeks off every summer has factored into just about every teachers decision to go down that path. Their annual salaries are usually fair, and tend to go up a decent amount every year.

Teachers also put in a fair amount of extra time that most people don't realize. Teachers usually put in more than a 40 hour week inculding time on the weekend for marking or what have you. Just because your child is at home, doesn't mean the teacher is. The salaries I believe are in direct relation to how many years to have been teaching. At certain intervals you will get a raise. I think it's around 3% a year.

[Gravitykillr]

not totally a career but I think the fast food, and convenience store job market is way way underpaid, I mean $9 an hour to start and all you do for 8 hours a day is deal with whiny people who think your a moron because your working at a Macdonald or a Mac's. I used to work with a girl who was working 2 jobs 1 of them at a Mac's because she had a degree in Physics can't remember the specific field) and she couldn't get hired anywhere, so she had to work at Mac's and be a waitress. Also working for $9 + $1 to work a night shift in a conveniece store sucks, underpaid and under appreciated by the general public.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by redforever

You are dead on the money. Why are our children, the care of our children and the education of our children held in such low regard?

Why are they held in such low regard? The reason is simple: They don't earn a profit. Only people that help other people make money are generally well compensated.

[MJK]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Teachers also put in a fair amount of extra time that most people don't realize. Teachers usually put in more than a 40 hour week inculding time on the weekend for marking or what have you. Just because your child is at home, doesn't mean the teacher is. The salaries I believe are in direct relation to how many years to have been teaching. At certain intervals you will get a raise. I think it's around 3% a year.

Exactly. Lots of people seem to be missing this point completely or they just care not to awknowledge it.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by MJK

Exactly. Lots of people seem to be missing this point completely or they just care not to awknowledge it.

Oh please. Who here doesn't put in more than 40 hours a week? Teachers aren't the only ones.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Gravitykillr

not totally a career but I think the fast food, and convenience store job market is way way underpaid, I mean $9 an hour to start and all you do for 8 hours a day is deal with whiny people who think your a moron because your working at a Macdonald or a Mac's. I used to work with a girl who was working 2 jobs 1 of them at a Mac's because she had a degree in Physics can't remember the specific field) and she couldn't get hired anywhere, so she had to work at Mac's and be a waitress. Also working for $9 + $1 to work a night shift in a conveniece store sucks, underpaid and under appreciated by the general public.

I think they are getting paid fine. In your opinion what would be a more acceptable rate?