[News] Kassian to have hearing with NHL **Assessed a two-game suspension**

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Rikster

Because you have a bias doesn't mean that we all do...And your bias is on full display...



No, they are and the fact that those who have played the game at the highest level agree puts you on that deserted Island...As for the hits being legal, it will be interesting to see if the league uses this incident as a catalyst for rule changes similar to what the NFL owners did...And I didn't label them, I gave my opinion...

And for a young player, Tkachuk is developing a disturbing resume of questionable conduct on the ice ...

Actually, the governing body of the highest level of the game deemed the hits legal and acceptable, and deemed the response by Kassian as unacceptable. If all these "highest level of the game" ex players are so disturbed by the hits they should be pointing their fingers at the game itself and the rules within the game.

We are basically hearing for the first time ever that you can't hit below the goal line or any number of other made up narratives. The fact is he didn't leave his feet, lead in with an elbow, come in late, or anything else that has always been deemed unacceptable.

The fact that the majority of media coverage towards the incident has been illogical doesn't make it correct.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Rikster

Because you have a bias doesn't mean that we all do...And your bias is on full display...



No, they are and the fact that those who have played the game at the highest level agree puts you on that deserted Island...As for the hits being legal, it will be interesting to see if the league uses this incident as a catalyst for rule changes similar to what the NFL owners did...And I didn't label them, I gave my opinion...

And for a young player, Tkachuk is developing a disturbing resume of questionable conduct on the ice ...

Good lord, stop drawing comparisons to the NFL...

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Rikster

Because you have a bias doesn't mean that we all do...And your bias is on full display...



No, they are and the fact that those who have played the game at the highest level agree puts you on that deserted Island...As for the hits being legal, it will be interesting to see if the league uses this incident as a catalyst for rule changes similar to what the NFL owners did...And I didn't label them, I gave my opinion...

And for a young player, Tkachuk is developing a disturbing resume of questionable conduct on the ice ...

Give it a break bud. Talk about preaching to the wrong audience. No one here believes that drivel.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Rikster

Because you have a bias doesn't mean that we all do...And your bias is on full display...



No, they are and the fact that those who have played the game at the highest level agree puts you on that deserted Island...As for the hits being legal, it will be interesting to see if the league uses this incident as a catalyst for rule changes similar to what the NFL owners did...And I didn't label them, I gave my opinion...

And for a young player, Tkachuk is developing a disturbing resume of questionable conduct on the ice ...

What you are hearing is exactly what the media campaign wants you to hear. That campaign was very pro Oilers. Mike Johnson and Bob McKenzie both said there was nothing wrong with the hit, which is why they weren't quoted in all the articles penned by the Oiler writers. You know what, they accomplished exactly what they wanted because in the mid afternoon you had radio people from the east talking about head shots, which none of the hits were. Kudos to the Oilers, their spin on things was masterful and on point. There are some countries that are giving them the slow clap and head nod.

[timbit]

Matt played the Caveman like a fiddle.

The results and sanctions are perfectly just.

Embarrassment , Frustration, leading to lack of Self Control and Anger culminating in totally

unjustified Assault, results in punishment.

No defence for the Caveman’s ridiculous reaction!

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by timbit

Matt played the Caveman like a fiddle.

The results and sanctions are perfectly just.

Embarrassment , Frustration, leading to lack of Self Control and Anger culminating in totally

unjustified Assault, results in punishment.

No defence for the Caveman’s ridiculous reaction!

Living rent Free in that Big ol head....of Kassian and every Oiler fan , ex player and alumni.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

TLJ has finally justified its existence.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Robbob

What you are hearing is exactly what the media campaign wants you to hear. That campaign was very pro Oilers. Mike Johnson and Bob McKenzie both said there was nothing wrong with the hit, which is why they weren't quoted in all the articles penned by the Oiler writers. You know what, they accomplished exactly what they wanted because in the mid afternoon you had radio people from the east talking about head shots, which none of the hits were. Kudos to the Oilers, their spin on things was masterful and on point. There are some countries that are giving them the slow clap and head nod.

It’s the way media works. The media asks a bunch of players for their comments, and only the comments that align with the writer’s intention are actually posted.

The writer says “here are 5 or 6 players that say it was dirty”, but doesn’t mention the 50 that had no issue with it.

The NHL has ruled that they were clean. If the refs had given a 2 minute minor penalty on the first hit, would we have complained? Maybe only slightly. But Kassian had the puck, Tkachuk didn’t hit has head as the principle point of contact, certainly didn’t target the head (that argument would be completely looney as Tkachuk hit with his lower torso), didn’t leave his feet, and the charging rule is pretty ambiguous, but Tkachuk did glide into Kassian after taking a few strides.

The argument that Tkachuk came out of position - and that’s why it’s dirty, is 100% bizarre. If he’s out of position, take advantage of it by passing the puck to the position he’s supposed to be covering. The arguement that he was out of position doesn’t seem to hold up, because what Tkachuk did (legally) was very effective.

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Living rent Free in that Big ol head....of Kassian and every Oiler fan , ex player and alumni.

There is quite a large vacancy, plenty of room for Tkachuk.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Good lord, stop drawing comparisons to the NFL...

If the NHL was the NFL, Kassian would have gotten an extra 10 minutes for 2 horse collar tackles.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Rikster

Because you have a bias doesn't mean that we all do...And your bias is on full display...

We all have a bias because we are all hockey fans with particular affinity for specific teams. Pretending that you are somehow immune is an expression of the Dunning Kreuger effect.

No, they are and the fact that those who have played the game at the highest level agree puts you on that deserted Island...

For the record, I don't particularly care a lot about the opinions of former players and hockey media pundits. They get some things right, but also just as many things wrong. But then again, until every single player and analyst weighs in on this it is utterly premature to insist that I am on some deserted island.

But let's explore that opinion of yours, shall we?

Tkachuk's legal bodychecks in the Saturday HNIC game are "the most cowardly thing you can do on a sheet of ice."

Really?

More cowardly than Todd Bertuzzi's assault on Steve Moore?
More cowardly than Raffi Torres's illegal head-check on Jakob Silfverberg?
More cowardly than Brad Marchand's spear on Jake Dotchin?
More cowardly than Mike Matheson's interference on Elias Pettersson?
More cowardly than Darnell Nurse's assault of Roman Polak?

I don't believe that you honestly think so.

...And for a young player, Tkachuk is developing a disturbing resume of questionable conduct on the ice ...

Please elaborate on this "questionable conduct." Beyond a handful of borderline hits—very similar to the sorts delivered by DOZENS of other NHL players—I am very interested to hear about this controversial resumé that Tkachuk is compiling.

[memphusk]

Now caveman says he has a good memory and also now knows what a clean hit is deemed by the NHL. I'm guessing he must of been injured in this game and had planned on missing the next two games anyways by the way he makes it sound? Fans brewed up some Kool aid and the team definetly drank it.

[timbit]

There were two cowards in this episode.

The Caveman was both of them.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

1. Player A lays two legal checks on Player B.
2. Player B attacks Player A from behind, without giving Player A the opportunity to defend himself.
3. Player A lays a third legal check on Player B.

**corrupt database**

5. Player A is coward.

This is great, and deserves to be seen many, many, many more times.

[the-rasta-masta]

Just saw Kassian's interview. Laughable that he says he would do it again. You wonder how the league likes to hear that. I know with the Torts suspension recently they took an additional $25k in case he kept opening his mouth about it, you think it should be the same in this case. Even mentions they are in the same division and that he has a good memory, all the while calling Tkachuk predatory in the same breath.

Are suspended players allowed to practice with the team? Looked like Kassian just got off the ice.

[The Big Chill]

I'm sure Tkachuk will also do it the same all over again if Kassian plans to keep skating around with his head down.

[Rikster]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

We all have a bias because we are all hockey fans with particular affinity for specific teams. Pretending that you are somehow immune is an expression of the Dunning Kreuger effect.


For the record, I don't particularly care a lot about the opinions of former players and hockey media pundits. They get some things right, but also just as many things wrong. But then again, until every single player and analyst weighs in on this it is utterly premature to insist that I am on some deserted island.

But let's explore that opinion of yours, shall we?

Tkachuk's legal bodychecks in the Saturday HNIC game are "the most cowardly thing you can do on a sheet of ice."

Really?

More cowardly than Todd Bertuzzi's assault on Steve Moore?
More cowardly than Raffi Torres's illegal head-check on Jakob Silfverberg?
More cowardly than Brad Marchand's spear on Jake Dotchin?
More cowardly than Mike Matheson's interference on Elias Pettersson?
More cowardly than Darnell Nurse's assault of Roman Polak?

I don't believe that you honestly think so.


Please elaborate on this "questionable conduct." Beyond a handful of borderline hits—very similar to the sorts delivered by DOZENS of other NHL players—I am very interested to hear about this controversial resumé that Tkachuk is compiling.

You're starting to ramble which is another way of saying that you are trying to swim uphill against the masses ...

Which is understandable given your position that every hockey fan has a bias, in your case and the few others who are arguing with you it's a bias that gets you in a tither when its the other teams players who are doing it but contort themselves defending their player whose doing it...

While I agree with Paul Stewarts blog on the incident, https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul...ule/196/103704, what bothers me the most about the incident is the cowardly nature of the hit followed by the turtle...

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Rikster

You're starting to ramble which is another way of saying that you are trying to swim uphill against the masses ...

Which is understandable given your position that every hockey fan has a bias, in your case and the few others who are arguing with you it's a bias that gets you in a tither when its the other teams players who are doing it but contort themselves defending their player whose doing it...

While I agree with Paul Stewarts blog on the incident, https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul...ule/196/103704, what bothers me the most about the incident is the cowardly nature of the hit followed by the turtle...

Sounds like Tkachuk is living in your head rent free too haha

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Rikster

You're starting to ramble which is another way of saying that you are trying to swim uphill against the masses ...

Which is understandable given your position that every hockey fan has a bias, in your case and the few others who are arguing with you it's a bias that gets you in a tither when its the other teams players who are doing it but contort themselves defending their player whose doing it...

While I agree with Paul Stewarts blog on the incident, https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul...ule/196/103704, what bothers me the most about the incident is the cowardly nature of the hit followed by the turtle...

You can have a problem with Tkachuk refusing to fight all you like. But explain to me how hitting a player who has the puck in scoring position is cowardly?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Rikster

You're starting to ramble which is another way of saying that you are trying to swim uphill against the masses ...

Which is understandable given your position that every hockey fan has a bias, in your case and the few others who are arguing with you it's a bias that gets you in a tither when its the other teams players who are doing it but contort themselves defending their player whose doing it...

While I agree with Paul Stewarts blog on the incident, https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul...ule/196/103704, what bothers me the most about the incident is the cowardly nature of the hit followed by the turtle...

Textcritic is quite coherent.

The one rambling and making little to no sense is you. Quit trolling this thread please, you aren’t even doing it well.