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It’s odd how on one hand the NHL promotes the skill of its players while ignoring plays of skill in these situations.

Saying Charlie Coyle didn’t have possession when he went skate-to-stick earlier this season was hilariously bad.
Today saying the Canes player dumped that in as opposed to an intentional in-possession bank off the boards to himself is also poor judgement.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's really a thin line. Pucks are not glued to sticks. Everytime the puck is away from the blade it is not possession?

Exactly

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1205982006829387776

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's really a thin line. Pucks are not glued to sticks. Everytime the puck is away from the blade it is not possession?

In the spirit of the way possession is understood, there’s no way anyone would ever consider that possession.

In this case the fact he didn’t touch it absolutely does matter.

[Hackey]

The part that confuses me is I thought everyone needs to clear the zone. If one player clears and enters again before the other clears that seems like everyone didn't tag up.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's really a thin line. Pucks are not glued to sticks. Everytime the puck is away from the blade it is not possession?

He has to battle the man before getting the puck back. That is not possession. At all.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

That is not a dump in. He tries to stick handle into the zone

Call it whatever you want. Fact is, he didn't touch the puck when it crossed the blue line, and each Cane player was tagged up, and thus onside when they retrieved the puck.

It's a technically of the rule that make it look so jarring at first, but makes sense now.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The part that confuses me is I thought everyone needs to clear the zone. If one player clears and enters again before the other clears that seems like everyone didn't tag up.

Everyone tagged up before it was touched.

[Wiggum_PI]

You also gotta remember that the league usually sticks with the call on the ice unless its blatantly incorrect. IMO this one could go either way, but unfortunately for the Flames I do think the right call was made here.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

In this case it does. This isn’t just the normal distance the puck may leave a puck carriers stick while naturally skating with possession of the puck.

He clearly knocks it in. Not carries it in.

That was 100% a goal. No doubt about it. At all.

There’s plenty of doubt. Lots of people here doubt it. Sutter doubts it. Ball doubts it (and IMO he’s got the best vision in the business).

Just because the puck gets a little ahead of you for a half second and you recover it before anyone else can, it doesn’t mean you lost possession. Players push the puck ahead and catch up all the time. That to me is possession. The puck was never more than a couple feet offf his stick.

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

But it wasn't a freaking chip in. Some of you guys need to get some better glasses.

Haha what? He chipped it back into the zone, he certainly didn’t carry it back in.

[Infinit47]

Only thing left to do is win the whole effing thing.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Watching that replay again, boy did Hamonic fall asleep there. They didn't even have numbers.

So this is the second game in a row you thought he should have been scratched?

You were dead wrong last game and you’re senseless rhetoric is getting monotonous

Give it a rest.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

He has to battle the man before getting the puck back. That is not possession. At all.

He didn’t really battle. He had position from the get go. Even if he did, guys with possession battle like that all the time.

[browna]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's really a thin line. Pucks are not glued to sticks. Everytime the puck is away from the blade it is not possession?

Offside is called when a puck is touched with a stick or part of the body while someone is in an offside position.
Puck wasn't touched while any one was in an offside position.

[Matty81]

Darren's great but he's blown there too. Everyone needs to clear the zone not just the guy who was offside on the entry.


Even if the argument that Gauthier didn't have possession on the entry stands - which is laughable, he entered the zone while his team was offside and would have needed to go back and tag up before touching it himself.

[OldSam]

And the screen captures are great and all but do any of them show if McGinn's skate is even on the ice? It could be 1 mm off the ice and therefore offside. Just a stupid, stupid decision without taking any time to properly review the call. I can guarantee it would not take 12 seconds to review if it was a Leaf game.

[rohara66]

It was 100% on side. Cassie is wrong and posters here are wrong.

Read the rule book and check yo glasses people.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Haha what? He chipped it back into the zone, he certainly didn’t carry it back in.

Please advise as to the difference between a chip, dump and carrying the puck. Is stick handling just a series of chips you catch up with while skating?

Also, the NHL changing their reasoning on the ruling is very telling.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Should have been 3-0. Wake up boys, there's lots of time. Get going.