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			I hope there is an announcement on this by time the work day is over here in Calgary. I don't think they should be letting this linger till tomorrow.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:06 PM
			
			
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				So now this goes through 3 separate organizations. 
This is going to end up in a Spotlight-esque Academy Award winning film, isn't it.    
			
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4 actually. Rockford/Chicago, Detroit, Carolina, Calgary. Unless you meant hearing stories from 3 organizations. Probably any time until we hear something from a player that was with Peters in Detroit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:07 PM
			
			
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			well that escalated quickly. Aliu's allegations are one thing, but the pile on regarding Peters' "conduct" and the absolute glee by some to see him exposed is shocking too. Dude seems to be hated by everybody.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:09 PM
			
			
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				4 actually. Rockford/Chicago, Detroit, Carolina, Calgary. Unless you meant hearing stories from 3 organizations. Probably any time until we hear something from a player that was with Peters in Detroit. 
			
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Makes me question why the flames are left holding the bag on a hire like this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:09 PM
			
			
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				Mark Armstrong 
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Per a Hurricanes source -- the player leadership group at the time and other staff members made Ron Francis aware of their concerns about Bill Peters conduct. Obviously - no change was made. 
 
Sara Civ  @SaraCivian 
Can confirm and will add close relationships spanning decades were ruined because of Francis' decision not to fire Peters. Obviously more to come later. 
			
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This is gonna get way worse. Jeeze.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:10 PM
			
			
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				I hope there is an announcement on this by time the work day is over here in Calgary. I don't think they should be letting this linger till tomorrow. 
			
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The only thing that matters is this is resolved before he takes on any other official duties for this club.  As much as we just want resolution, I'm happy for the Flames to take whatever time they have to make the right call (which I agree, unless something crazy is about to come out of the woodwork, seems obvious) and ensure they handle all of this the right way.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:10 PM
			
			
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				Bill Peters is seriously getting exposed 
			
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				 Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.  
			
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			11-26-2019, 05:10 PM
			
			
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			Ron Francis is the new Seattle GM, there's egg on his face now with this news.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:11 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  KootenayFlamesFan
					 
				 
				4 actually. Rockford/Chicago, Detroit, Carolina, Calgary. Unless you meant hearing stories from 3 organizations. Probably any time until we hear something from a player that was with Peters in Detroit. 
			
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Don't forget Canada
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:12 PM
			
			
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				Ron Francis is the new Seattle GM, there's egg on his face now with this news. 
			
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Imagine if Francis hires Peters to coach in Seattle
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:12 PM
			
			
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				I wonder what Peters did or said around the allstar break last year.  
 
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I wonder that myself.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:13 PM
			
			
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				So Ron Francis knew something and didn't act? 
			
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Well he didn't make a player-for-player trade in his time as GM, either.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:14 PM
			
			
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			Remeber when we thought Peter's was supposed to be the perfect porridge to Hartley "too hot" style and Gully "too cold" style? 
 
Man, those were some times.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:14 PM
			
			
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			There is something unpleasant about these anonymous sources coming out and piling on. They are just letting Aliu bear this entire thing as the its public face (with the exception of Michal Jordan). Then again, I guess it shows how intimidating it is to speak up when your future in the NHL could be jeopardized.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:14 PM
			
			
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				Imagine if Francis hires Peters to coach in Seattle 
			
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Babcock and Peters
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:15 PM
			
			
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				There is something unpleasant about these anonymous sources coming out and piling on. They are just letting Aliu bear this entire thing as the its public face (with the exception of Michal Jordan). Then again, I guess it shows how intimidating it is to speak up when your future in the NHL could be jeopardized. 
			
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TSN named two specific players by name that corroborated Aliu's story, so they aren't hiding.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:16 PM
			
			
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				I wonder what Peters did or said around the allstar break last year.  
 
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				I wonder that myself. 
			
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Interesting. The team was on an absolute tear. Went into a spiral they still haven’t come out of since that time. What happened to this team?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-26-2019, 05:17 PM
			
			
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				I hope there is an announcement on this by time the work day is over here in Calgary. I don't think they should be letting this linger till tomorrow. 
			
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If I was the Flames, I would much rather have this evening’s news cycle be “ Flames fire coach for racist and abusive conduct” instead of “ Flames coach accused yesterday and today of racist and abusive conduct, team still undecided on course of action.”
 
This story and all its evidence is still going to be discussed over and over on all broadcasts, regardless of the headline attached to it... so it seems like a no-brainer to at least want to have the best headline you can get in your favour.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:18 PM
			
			
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				Interesting. The team was on an absolute tear. Went into a spiral they still haven’t come out of since that time. What happened to this team? 
			
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They stopped listening to "that genre" of music?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2019, 05:19 PM
			
			
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				Interesting. The team was on an absolute tear. Went into a spiral they still haven’t come out of since that time. What happened to this team? 
			
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Sunflower topped the charts and it tore the dressing room apart.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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