11-26-2019, 12:57 PM
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#221
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Franchise Player
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You know what, here in Toronto, they all joke around about Dion Phaneuf's captaincy (salute gate, etc) but there was a big story here about how he went in and changed the locker room music.
Maybe hockey locker room music is a much more sacred thing than I had imagined, and Phaneuf should be given more credit for the stones it took messing with something so holy!
Joking aside, ugh, what a sad day on so many different levels.
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11-26-2019, 12:58 PM
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#222
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Former Canes player:
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
1) Never wish anything bad to the person but you get what you deserve Bill.After years making it to the NHL had experience with the worst coach ever by far.Kicking me and punching other player to the head during the game...
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
2) then pretending like nothing happened...couldnt believe my eyes what can happen in the best league.. happy that i dont have to go thrue that stuff on daily basics anymore.
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11-26-2019, 12:58 PM
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#223
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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11-26-2019, 12:59 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
You know what, here in Toronto, they all joke around about Dion Phaneuf's captaincy (salute gate, etc) but there was a big story here about how he went in and changed the locker room music.
Maybe hockey locker room music is a much more sacred thing than I had imagined, and Phaneuf should be given more stones for messing with something so holy!
Joking aside, ugh, what a sad day on so many different levels.
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It is a "thing" for a player to be in charge of music, and it can be an irritant to some.
They should actually award music choice like the green hard hat.
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11-26-2019, 12:59 PM
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#225
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Former Canes player:
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
1) Never wish anything bad to the person but you get what you deserve Bill.After years making it to the NHL had experience with the worst coach ever by far.Kicking me and punching other player to the head during the game...
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
2) then pretending like nothing happened...couldnt believe my eyes what can happen in the best league.. happy that i dont have to go thrue that stuff on daily basics anymore.
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11-26-2019, 01:00 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Man, if the Flames keep him you will eventually see fans wearing the jersey being called racists as well.
He has to go.
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Yeah, I don't think you can keep him because of the image factor. What are you going to do when someone throws a jersey on the ice with 'racist' on the name bar
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11-26-2019, 01:00 PM
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#227
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First Line Centre
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He punched someone during a game?
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11-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
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Nobody caught this on camera?
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11-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
It is a "thing" for a player to be in charge of music, and it can be an irritant to some.
They should actually award music choice like the green hard hat.
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When I played music was left up to one person but could very easily be voted out.
The thing with locker room music though is sometimes the crappier and sillier the better. Even though we all thought it was awful, I'm ashamed to say we had a lot of Katy Perry and LMFAO playing back in the day
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11-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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#230
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Or three strikes?
You don't even get one strike anymore.
A guy makes a mistake and everyone wants to kill him immediately.
All of this and Canada elects a guy to be Prime Minister who can't remember how many times he dressed up in blackface.
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Try a little experiment. Go find a minority individual in your organization and use a racial slur against said person. Report back what happens.
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11-26-2019, 01:03 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Makarov
Agreed. That attempt to humiliate Aliu may have been motivated by some misguided (and in itself unacceptable) Babcockian-school-of-amateur-psychology textbook about motivating hockey players. Or it may have been motivated by something more sinister. We will never know the answer. However, when one acts the way Peters allegedly acted, it certainly leaves the door wide open for people to suspect motivation #2.
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Or it was just a brash guy in a brash environment, not thinking in the moment and acted completely ignorantly. To think it was premeditated and some sort of psychological strategy of coaching players is incredibly odd.
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11-26-2019, 01:03 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Former Canes player:
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
1) Never wish anything bad to the person but you get what you deserve Bill.After years making it to the NHL had experience with the worst coach ever by far.Kicking me and punching other player to the head during the game...
Michal Jordan
@TheBigCzech23
2) then pretending like nothing happened...couldnt believe my eyes what can happen in the best league.. happy that i dont have to go thrue that stuff on daily basics anymore.
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The hits just keep coming.
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11-26-2019, 01:03 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I think that is a separate question. When the Flames did their comprehensive coaching search two years prior, it is likely that vetting would not have touched on much of this stuff in the first place. Maybe that changes moving forward, and not just for the Flames.
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I don't see the issue with limited search (as being framed on here), the coaching world in hockey is pretty different then just hiring someone off the street for a job. The pool of eligible and viable candidates is relatively small.....targeted hires are totally acceptable IMO because there is a lot known about them from a body of work perspective prior to any interview process.
I also think when it comes to this situation, we need to separate the "bullying" from the "alleged racism" as issues. Both are issues, but one (the bullying) has some grey around it IMO in regards to what is potentially acceptable (not necessarily effective) to tolerate within the culture of your organization, the other, the racism, is a very cut and dry issue IMO that simply can't be tolerated under any circumstance.
To be clear on the bullying point above. People may have different thresholds on what constitutes bullying versus simply tough coaching, that could warrant some debate over what is actually bullying or not. Kicking and punching players for example...........definitely bullying in my eyes.
Last edited by Cleveland Steam Whistle; 11-26-2019 at 01:07 PM.
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11-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
The hits just keep coming.
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Pretty easy to figure out why this team looks so miserable on a nightly basis.
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11-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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#235
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah, given all the players coming out of the woodwork, you cant drag on this investigation much longer. The sooner its back to business with this behind the team the better.
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11-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
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There has to be more former players with comments, keep them coming guys.
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11-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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#237
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
The hits just keep coming.
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Yep, they just keep on kickin.
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11-26-2019, 01:06 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Unreal he is a real jerk it sounds like no wonder the team has quit on him
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11-26-2019, 01:06 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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I'm definitely starting to believe the rumours of players here not liking him
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11-26-2019, 01:07 PM
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#240
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
There has to be more former players with comments, keep them coming guys.
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Makes you wonder what we'll hear trickle out from Flames players over the next year.
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