11-20-2019, 03:02 PM
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#61
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Originally Posted by Locke
Stay far, far away from Babcock.
I have no idea where this guy gets his Legendary status from.
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11-20-2019, 03:02 PM
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#62
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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11-20-2019, 03:04 PM
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#64
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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And here I thought the Flames Forum had the best animated GIF's!
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11-20-2019, 03:05 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I could see other struggling teams with higher expectations like the Devils or maybe the Preds going after Babcock
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11-20-2019, 03:06 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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I think we should double down. Instead of the ersatz Babcock, get the real one. Keep Peters as the assistant. Give our players a real taste of hell. What could go wrong?
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11-20-2019, 03:06 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Saw what you will about Babcock, he was not the problem in Toronto. Dubas is in over his head and it's costing them any chance of winning consistently.
When the the second half of every back-to-back is auto loss night because they have an ECHL/AHL level goalie, that's not on the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
When your coach says he wants a certain style of player to get the most out of his coaching style and you give him the exact opposite, that's not on the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
When you spend way too much money on the top of your team, caving to a middle-six winger RFAs (Nylander) while other teams, even those in similar tax climates, get better deals on their RFAs with similar or better production (with much less fight to boot), you can't blame the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
That all being said, I don't think Babcock is the right coach for that group. They're very similar to the middle and early 2010s Capitals and I suspect they're going to get coaches fired much the same as that group. Often and because they think they're better than they are.
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11-20-2019, 03:08 PM
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#68
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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You gotta think Dubas has been itching to hire his guy Keefe since way back when he was just Lamiorello's assistant.
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11-20-2019, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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ersatz babcock has me laughing
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11-20-2019, 03:10 PM
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#71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Saw what you will about Babcock, he was not the problem in Toronto. Dubas is in over his head and it's costing them any chance of winning consistently.
When the the second half of every back-to-back is auto loss night because they have an ECHL/AHL level goalie, that's not on the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
When your coach says he wants a certain style of player to get the most out of his coaching style and you give him the exact opposite, that's not on the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
When you spend way too much money on the top of your team, caving to a middle-six winger RFAs (Nylander) while other teams, even those in similar tax climates, get better deals on their RFAs with similar or better production (with much less fight to boot), you can't blame the coach. That's on the guy assembling the team.
That all being said, I don't think Babcock is the right coach for that group. They're very similar to the middle and early 2010s Capitals and I suspect they're going to get coaches fired much the same as that group. Often and because they think they're better than they are.
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He's for sure the fall guy for the GM. Babcock will be employed next year if he chooses. After the Leafs, Dubas will never be in charge of an NHL team again.
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11-20-2019, 03:11 PM
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#72
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Keefe is very highly rated, but at the same time, a rookie NHL coach trying to save a team in WinNow mode, in Toronto.
That's a big ask.
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Hey, you can't miss with a highly touted coach from the Marlies. It's not like TO media overhypes such guys right?
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11-20-2019, 03:12 PM
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#73
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Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nobles_point
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What is the lore behind why Commodore hates Babcock?
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11-20-2019, 03:13 PM
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#74
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Tired: Mike Babcock should replace Bill Peters
Wired: Mike Babcock should replace Don Cherry
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11-20-2019, 03:13 PM
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#75
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Leafs seem to have a neverending supply of money to toss on the fire.
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11-20-2019, 03:13 PM
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#76
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
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Anaheim Ducks.
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11-20-2019, 03:13 PM
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#77
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Stay far, far away from Babcock.
I have no idea where this guy gets his Legendary status from.
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The off-the-record stuff I hear about Babcock going back to Lethbridge, is quite astonishing. Stay away.
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11-20-2019, 03:16 PM
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#78
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
The off-the-record stuff I hear about Babcock going back to Lethbridge, is quite astonishing. Stay away.
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Care to tell us? If not can you PM it to me?
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11-20-2019, 03:16 PM
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#79
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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11-20-2019, 03:19 PM
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#80
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Really they are two in the same as Peters is his protege. If the players are unhappy under Peters they will be unhappy under Babcock.
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Protoge's are not clones.
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