This whole situation sucks, but what is especially awful is how quick some of the media personalities like PuckDaddy and DownGoesBrown have been quick to jump on it for a few extra Twitter retweets.
Don loved hockey, the same hockey that pays your wage.
Move on.
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People have to stop with the right of free speech garbage. This isn’t politics. It’s business. You say something that could hurt the interests of the companies that employ you, you’re gone. That’s how it works.
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That's just the way guys like Don go out...did anyone actually believe he's have an amicable retirement high fiving everyone on his way out? He was going to go out just like this, because this is the type of guy he is. If it wasn't this issue it would have been something else equally as controversial. I've known other guys like this and it's just in their DNA.
That's just the way guys like Don go out...did anyone actually believe he's have an amicable retirement high fiving everyone on his way out? He was going to go out just like this, because this is the type of guy he is. If it wasn't this issue it would have been something else equally as controversial. I've known other guys like this and it's just in their DNA.
Pretty much this, although I imagined he would go out like this.
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"You know, that's kinda why I came here, to show that I don't suck that much" ~ Devin Cooley, Professional Goaltender
I think you're right. My parents are 1st gen Canadian citizens and they're both a bit baffled at the general reaction to Cherry's comments. They've seen racism first hand - my dad still remembers being discriminated against in job interviews in the 70s and 80s, my mom remembers being told to "Go home, [slur]" right here in Calgary, but they both think that Cherry's intent was in the right place even if his language was divisive.
I've lived nearly a decade in Mexico and people here don't even understand racism/discrimination the same way as in the West. I get called a white boy all the time which I find funny but it's just a local way of talking. Also if I imagine a local Don Cherry saying similar things I would just look at the guy and think there's that old, senile guy rambling again. People have widely different perspectives.
Ah, the ad hominem appears. But I'm sure I'm using that wrong, too. What if I told you I was an immigrant? Does that make you a racist?
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I'm a first generation immigrant. And I'm only posting this for status signaling.
Yes, you are using that wrong. And no, nobody cares that you’re an immigrant. Your opinions are being fairly criticised for what they are, not who they’re coming from.
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Don Cherry - Could His Time Finally Be Up? [UPDATE] Yes. Fired by SN.
Not sure what else MacLean was supposed to do? Cherry did this to himself at the detriment of everybody involved with Coach’s Corner. At least MacLean may have saved a few jobs for the rest of the season. I am sure if he didn’t apologize then the whole thing would be blown up.
I am not endorsing MacLean though, his takes on NHL officiating are bad.
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I'm OK with him being fired over what anyone with working ears and a brain that runs on logic knows he meant. Rogers' complaint lines were literally broken by this incident. I guess a whole lot of people had a pretty good understanding of it.
By your standards, pretty much no one says anything racist because they always couch their statements in innuendo and suggestive language. When people in Charlottesville say "you will not replace us" they never mention a race or religion. Yet we all know what they meant. Or when people talk about "globalists" or "welfare queens" or "states rights" or "thugs". Lee Atwater spelled it out.
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You start out in 1954 by saying, “N____, n_____, n____.” By 1968 you can’t say “n___”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N____, n____.”
Also, if he's terrible ad lib, then he should be fired from his job ad libbing (if that was even an ad lib).
See, obviously what he said was wrong, but he wasn’t, say, telling immigrants to go away. He did not say anybody wasn’t welcome in our country. He did not make any statements or inferences about superiority or inferiority.
He admonished people for not buying poppies / supporting veterans.
Do you think mentions of Charlottesville are perhaps false equivalency ?
The whole dramatic arc of the rant started with him lamenting whether or not to bother showing his poppy montage, because too few people buy poppies. The veteran he spoke with said to show it for people who do buy poppies.
He took it upon himself to chastise people for not supporting veterans. He was obviously wrong in using the loaded you people / come here combo to identify the people he was chastising.
His first reaction yesterday was not unexpected. He didn’t believe he did anything wrong, and he said it was because he thinks everyone should honour and support veterans. It seemed he wasn’t focused on the people he identified, so much as he was on his ask. He didn’t think he had mentioned immigrants and stood by his belief that everyone should get poppies.
In today’s interview, you can see he has been made aware of the choice of words people took exception to and their impact.
He should have apologized, and clarified. It appears it took him time to understand what people actually took issue with.
I don’t know. I was raised to give people the benefit of the doubt.
I could see him thinking he was doing the right thing, advocating for veterans.
I don’t see the guy as the bloody monster some of you are making him out to be.
Did he do wrong? Yep.
Is he a racist? I think it’s pretty darn awful to throw that label on someone. I wonder if the people who are saying it here would break it out and say it to his face in an honest conversation. I’m not saying to ask him if he thought it was racist. I mean to tell him unequivocally that he is.
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Don Cherry appeared on Tucker Carlson (Fox News US) and says he should’ve used the word “everybody” instead of “you people” because people are sensitive. Tucker Carlson’s response is that they aren’t sensitive but they are fascists and they have no real feelings.
So yeah that seems to clarify what his true intent was. He meant what he said.
This whole situation sucks, but what is especially awful is how quick some of the media personalities like PuckDaddy and DownGoesBrown have been quick to jump on it for a few extra Twitter retweets.
Don loved hockey, the same hockey that pays your wage.
Move on.
Every media and corporate interest is jumping in for self gain. It’s sad nothing seems genuine anymore. Eg Budweiser and its statement. Give me a break.
I’m always surprised how naive people are to the calculated acts of the modern corporate society.
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