Don Cherry Fired by SN - Poll Added

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Corral

Lots of cherry bashing here. But I just remember all those segments of coaches corner where don touched the Canadian soul. For example the show which tributes gord downie in the fall of 2017. He will be missed and its a shame he was cut bySN

Or when he showed up at Rob Ford's inauguration and called people "pinkos riding bicycles" and "left wing kooks". Or when he called people who believe climate change is occurring "####aloos". Or when he made comments in a lisp when referring to players he figured were soft, and called new rules "pansification". Good times.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Burner

true

but then its also fair to say you dont value what others have done to bring Canada to where it is today and I call that disrespectful

Aside from the whole issue with Cherry, one of the reasons I want nothing to do with Remembrance Day is because of false tropes like the one about our soldiers sacrificing their lives to bring Canada to where it is today.

First of all, this is a day commemorating the armistice for World War I. We were dragged into that senseless war as a colony, and largely used as fodder as were other colonies. Read Owen and Sassoon instead of Flanders Field. Let's remember, as Armistice Day was intended to cause us to remember, that WWI was meant to be the war to end all wars because it forced us collectively to recognize the senselessness and nihilism of military conflict. So let Remembrance Day be a sombre reflection, not a glorification of the military.

Soldiers did not win our way of life in Canada. We were certainly involved in a just war in WWII but nothing about our way of life, our constitution, our rights or our freedoms were won by soldiers.

While I'm on the topic, let's celebrate public service. All on board. But I am not on board with celebrating and extolling the military and the police above all others. The irony is that those who are so vocal about extolling those forms of service tend to trash other public servants.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I wonder what an inclusive Canadian such as Gord Downie would think of Don's comments.

I'd like to think he would come out against them.

This is a rather curious comment. Aside from needlessly canonizing Gord Downie, what exactly do you think invoking his memory achieves here?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

This is a rather curious comment. Aside from needlessly canonizing Gord Downie, what exactly do you think invoking his memory achieves here?

Nothing.

I retract.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Or when he showed up at Rob Ford's inauguration and called people "pinkos riding bicycles" and "left wing kooks". Or when he called people who believe climate change is occurring "####aloos". Or when he made comments in a lisp when referring to players he figured were soft, and called new rules "pansification". Good times.

Exactly. He has a long history. Why fire him on remberance day of all days unless you want to embarrass him. Shame on SN.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Danielle Smith did the same thing. To me there is no way to possibly mistake that he was talking about immigrants,,,,"you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey". Leaving these bits out and focusing only on "you people" gives him a pretty easy pass that Smith's listeners gobbled up. 100% of callers seemed to think he was targeting all Canadians and that he was not specifically targeting immigrants. And if he was targeting immigrants it was the Irish.

At least Rob Breakenridge played the whole and unredacted clip from Cherry. Listening to Danielle Smith can be frustrating. She seems smart enough, but wants to pander to her angry callers.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Corral

Exactly. He has a long history. Why fire him on remberance day of all days unless you want to embarrass him. Shame on SN.

It really screams poor public relations to me. Forget about Cherry, why do it on a day when you know you're going to be taking some of the focus away from what the day is intended, veterans and why we choose to remember them?

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Aside from the whole issue with Cherry, one of the reasons I want nothing to do with Remembrance Day is because of false tropes like the one about our soldiers sacrificing their lives to bring Canada to where it is today.

First of all, this is a day commemorating the armistice for World War I. We were dragged into that senseless war as a colony, and largely used as fodder as were other colonies. Read Owen and Sassoon instead of Flanders Field. Let's remember, as Armistice Day was intended to cause to remember, that WWI was meant to be the war to end all wars because it forced us collectively to recognize the senselessness and nihilism of military conflict. So let Remembrance Day be a sombre reflection, not a glorification of the military.

Soldiers did not win our way of life in Canada. We were certainly involved in a just war in WWII but nothing about our way of life, our constitution, our rights or our freedoms were won by soldiers.

While I'm on the topic, let's celebrate public service. All on board. But I am not on board with celebrating and extolling the military and the police above all others. The irony is that those who are so vocal about extolling those forms of service tend to trash other public servants.

Yes I'm sure the Germans would have left poor little Canada and our constitution alone, had they been allowed to expand unchecked. Remembrance day is a sombre reflection, and not a glorification, pure ignorance.

Can't believe that this is the mindset of some Canadians...

[dino7c]

Don should do a daily podcast/online coaches corner. Say whatever he wants

Don't like it? Don't listen

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

It really screams poor public relations to me. Forget about Cherry, why do it on a day when you know you're going to be taking some of the focus away from what the day is intended, veterans and why we choose to remember them?

Well, it was after all the ceremonies were done. I think they wanted to rip the bandaid asap. Once the decision was made (at a meeting with Cherry on Sunday I suspect), there was always a chance he'd go public and try to seize the narrative.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Flacker

Yes I'm sure the Germans would have left poor little Canada and our constitution alone, had they been allowed to expand unchecked. Remembrance day is a sombre reflection, and not a glorification, pure ignorance.

Can't believe that this is the mindset of some Canadians...

There are a lot of people all over the world and at home fighting for democracy every day and very few of them have uniforms or guns. That struggle is ongoing and carries on long after the military battles are done.

The fact that we send soldiers off to fight and to die absolutely should be remembered but unfortunately that gets conflated with military and nationalistic pride.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

It's interesting that Grapeline (with Don Cherry and Brian Williams) was ended after 35 years this past April. I wonder if it was still around, if that would have also been cancelled and/or if he would have addressed it as a segment on there.

[Wastedyouth]

The only people really getting outrage by Cherry's firing are those that realize that the world is changing, and that type of #### isn't acceptable. So they are scared and sad that they might actually not have to be #######s to everyone and grow up.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

There are a lot of people all over the world and at home fighting for democracy every day and very few of them have uniforms or guns. That struggle is ongoing and carries on long after the military battles are done.

The fact that we send soldiers off to fight and to die absolutely should be remembered but unfortunately that gets conflated with military and nationalistic pride.

d

Difference is that today nobody is trying for world domination. If Germany had taken over England they would have taken over all the commonwealth. A bit different from carrying a placard bashing your own government, or tweeting a hastag. The millions of soldiers secured that right for you.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Corral

Exactly. He has a long history. Why fire him on remberance day of all days unless you want to embarrass him. Shame on SN.

No, shame on Cherry. This entire situation lays solely at his feet, is his to own, and his to reconcile. He made Remembrance Day about him, nobody else.

He was fired on Remembrance Day because that’s when he was fired, not to embarrass him. He embarrassed himself, and he embarrassed many many Canadians, veterans included.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Larry David

how would Don Cherry even know who is an immigrant by just looking at them.. other than what he presumes to be immigrants by looking at the colour of their skin .. which to me is racist.

Uhm... Accents? Clothing? Grammar? Vocabulary?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Corral

Exactly. He has a long history. Why fire him on remberance day of all days unless you want to embarrass him. Shame on SN.

He was fired on Remembrance day because unlike most of us he choose to work on Remembrance day instead off taking the day off to honour our Veterans, and then while at work did something monumentally stupid.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No, shame on Cherry. This entire situation lays solely at his feet, is his to own, and his to reconcile. He made Remembrance Day about him, nobody else.

He was fired on Remembrance Day because that’s when he was fired, not to embarrass him. He embarrassed himself, and he embarrassed many many Canadians, veterans included.

Naw, shame on Sportsnet too. They were more than happy to ride that knives edge for years. They shouldn't skate on this just because they dismissed him this time, it's been happening for decades and they knew full well who they were putting front and center.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

He was fired on Remembrance day because unlike most of us he choose to work on Remembrance day instead off taking the day off to honour our Veterans, and then while at work did something monumentally stupid.

TBF what he did was on Saturday, not the 11th.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

He was fired on Remembrance day because unlike most of us he choose to work on Remembrance day instead off taking the day off to honour our Veterans, and then while at work did something monumentally stupid.

He made those comments on Saturday night