But Ron MacLean nodded along and gave a thumbs up to his comments. Then he got the phone call from the bosses, who replaced him once, and backtracked to offer his "apology" just so he could keep his job.
It is ironic that Dave Hodge was fired for flipping a pen on live television.
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I know he was talking about immigrants. But he was talking about the immigrants that come here and leach off of society, then don’t accept our traditions.
I don't know that this is what Cherry was referring to, because this is not clear from his comments. But even if this was his point, it is still a bad one. Canada's distinction is by design multi-cultural. There should never be any pressure on anyone to adopt our traditions (whatever those are). In fact, I would argue that one of the reasons it is often difficult to pin-point specific elements of "Canadian culture" is precisely because of this way in which our society has actively promoted and celebrated cultural diversity.
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Reply to Spinach: Obviously you wouldn't recognize satire if you ran into it on the street! I think you need to eat your spinach to improve your brain power. My comments are NOT satire they are my opinion. Yes I am old but along with age comes wisdom. You are obviously not looking at the whole story that's what I meant about lack of comprehension which you undoubtably fall under. I said my piece, gave my opinion on the issue, now I'm done. If I want to spar with someone I will do so but not with an unarmed person.
A. Spinach doesn’t improve brain power. It makes you pee.
B. I’d say with age comes experience, not wisdom, but in this case I wonder about both.
C. “I said my piece” - just what Cherry said. Before he got turfed.
D. “Unarmed person”? Original.
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Agreed, pretty clear who the "you" are that he is referring to. Again he had every opportunity to clarify.
I don't want to set Don Cherry on fire. Getting old sucks. I have seen it with my Dad and his friends. You start losing your mental sharpness and you get angry at things. I get it. Unfortunately, Cherry just shouldn't have this platform any longer. Because this kind of talk is divisive.
Given how much the guy is worth, does he not have some handlers who could have helped him here? Maybe he just won't listen to anybody. I don't know.
Yeah, but Don Cherry has been angry at things for about 40 years.
A. Spinach doesn’t improve brain power. It makes you pee.
B. I’d say with age comes experience, not wisdom, but in this case I wonder about both.
C. “I said my piece” - just what Cherry said. Before he got turfed.
D. “Unarmed person”? Original.
I have to go to the bathroom. I've said my piece.
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I know he was talking about immigrants. But he was talking about the immigrants that come here and leach off of society, then don’t accept our traditions.
So if visible minority immigrants come here and don’t have a poppy on (at that time) they are also leaching off society? Like physicians, engineers, Bay Street traders etc too?
It seems (I could be wrong) it has nothing to do with vets but what immigrants “look like” because that tells you all you need to know eh?
I know he was talking about immigrants. But he was talking about the immigrants that come here and leach off of society, then don’t accept our traditions.
Way to out racist Cherry, that took effort, all Cherry said was new Canadians don't observe Remembrance day as much as people who were brought up since childhood to supposedly revere the day, mostly by going to the mall for a sale with a poppy on but what ever, each to their own, you decided immigrants are also leeches, even Cherry didn't go there.
So if visible minority immigrants come here and don’t have a poppy on (at that time) they are also leaching off society? Like physicians, engineers, Bay Street traders etc too?
It seems (I could be wrong) it has nothing to do with vets but what immigrants “look like” because that tells you all you need to know eh?
Uhh no, my interpretation was pretty clear. Twist it however you like though.
Way to out racist Cherry, that took effort, all Cherry said was new Canadians don't observe Remembrance day as much as people who were brought up since childhood to supposedly revere the day, mostly by going to the mall for a sale with a poppy on but what ever, each to their own, you decided immigrants are also leeches, even Cherry didn't go there.
This is exactly how the liberals took power this election. Twist what I said why don’t you. I never said immigrants were leeches. Try reading it again.
But Ron MacLean nodded along and gave a thumbs up to his comments. Then he got the phone call from the bosses, who replaced him once, and backtracked to offer his "apology" just so he could keep his job. He is no better than Cherry.
He’s worse . At least Cherry owned what he said and lost his job for his beliefs.
Uhh no, my interpretation was pretty clear. Twist it however you like though.
Wow.
Immigrants who leech off of society - OK I'm not really sure what that means but presumably there are lots of people who "leech off of society". What makes immigrants different so that you want to mention them particularly?
"Our" traditions? There are many traditions observed in Canada. Which are "ours"? Who are you referring to in "ours"? All Canadians? The Canadians who observe the traditions you kind of like? People that were born here?
Do yo not see what you are doing here, creating division along the lines of where you were born?
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If you question the patriotism of immigrants go work for a day at an election. You will meet many people that are so excited to be voting for the first time and proud of being part of a country that lets them vote. It’s such a different attitude from a voter who has voted many times. It’s amazing to see.
So I don’t think Cherry is correct that immigrants care less about the sacrifices of soldiers in the wars. They may not be aware of Canadian traditions like remembrance day if there is any deference between multi gen Canadians and first gen Canadians.
Cherry basically reminds me of my Granmpa. Racist by today’s standards but a product of his day who got along with people of all backgrounds. He should have retired years ago. Watching that segment he appears to lose his train of thought and he stumbles through his points.
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Immigrants who leech off of society - OK I'm not really sure what that means but presumably there are lots of people who "leech off of society". What makes immigrants different so that you want to mention them particularly?
"Our" traditions? There are many traditions observed in Canada. Which are "ours"? Who are you referring to in "ours"? All Canadians? The Canadians who observe the traditions you kind of like? People that were born here?
Do yo not see what you are doing here, creating division along the lines of where you were born?
I’m quite obviously stating my interpretation of what Don Cherry said. I’d say Remembrance Day is a pretty Canadian tradition. Wouldn’t you?
Cherry basically reminds me of my Granmpa. Racist by today’s standards but a product of his day who got along with people of all backgrounds. He should have retired years ago. Watching that segment he appears to lose his train of thought and he stumbles through his points.
I'd love to meet your grandpa, so I could berate him and tell him what a horrible person he is.
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But Ron MacLean nodded along and gave a thumbs up to his comments. Then he got the phone call from the bosses, who replaced him once, and backtracked to offer his "apology" just so he could keep his job. He is no better than Cherry.
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He’s worse . At least Cherry owned what he said and lost his job for his beliefs.
I respectfully disagree. I have far more issue with a guy who says something discriminatory and doesn't recognize it as discriminatory than the guy who humbles himself before the public for his passivity. I can respect someone for sticking to his convictions as much as the next guy, but there's a logical limit to that, don't you think?
Of course he's trying to save face and his job, but it takes a lot to admit you did or participated in something that was wrong, own it, and promise to be better. That and MacLean doesn't have a documented history of narrowmindedness.
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I’m quite obviously stating my interpretation of what Don Cherry said. I’d say Remembrance Day is a pretty Canadian tradition. Wouldn’t you?
Nope. Remembrance Day is observed in eleven countries around the world, and another thirteen observe similar statutory holidays on 11 November. There is nothing particularly Canadian about Remembrance Day.
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