[PGT] Blues 3 Flames 2 I'm sad edition

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Everyone knows you win with elite wingers, and not 3 zone point producing centres.

Just ask Jarome Iginla and Theoren Fleury

How about McDavid and Der Gretzkrieg?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Everyone knows you win with elite wingers, and not 3 zone point producing centres.

Just ask Jarome Iginla and Theoren Fleury

There hasn't been one game this season that i haven't thought Kadri with Tkachuck would have been great. I hate that Kadri nixed that deal. He was exactly what we needed, and we almost had it. Not to mention Brown would have also been a huge upgrade on Janko.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Everyone knows you win with elite wingers, and not 3 zone point producing centres.

Just ask Jarome Iginla and Theoren Fleury

It's pretty frustrating how inept this organization is at stocking high end center depth.

Monahan, Backlund, Ryan isn't going to cut it if we want to win a cup with this core IMO.

In a perfect world you have a two way C that's better than Monahan as the #1, which would bump them all down a notch, but I'd even settle for one that slots nicely in between Monahan and Backlund.

But nope, our highest ever draft pick had to fizzle out into a 3rd line grinding winger, and "the best pick from the 2012 draft" is barely even a 4th line C. You have Dube flat lining in the AHL, Kadri playing in Colorado and ROR winning a cup in St. Louis.


Always a day late and a dollar short for one reason or another.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Alpine emotional for sure, BBF handled it perfectly. Banning him for that though? Weak. Maybe I missed something.

Disagree. That poster was way over the top, and rude, and directed it at another poster who absolutely did not deserve that. And it was not new for this poster to do crap like that.

I think that people should be held accountable. And while things can get emotional, and that's okay, there needs to be decorum and respect - especially towards other posters.

I am pleased that he got banned, and I wish crap like that resulted in bannings more often. I don't come here to see posters rudely attacking other posters.

[Resolute 14]

Christ guys. Flash dropping a big steamer in the middle of these threads is old hat at this point. Why do you guys keep taking the bait?

Gaudreau's play in OT (in particular) was definitely problematic, but honestly, we skated with the defending champs and one of the best teams in the league this year for nearly that entire contest. We definitely deserved the point, and we could have gotten two.

I'll take that.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Disagree. That poster was way over the top, and rude, and directed it at another poster who absolutely did not deserve that. And it was not new for this poster to do crap like that.

I think that people should be held accountable. And while things can get emotional, and that's okay, there needs to be decorum and respect - especially towards other posters.

I am pleased that he got banned, and I wish crap like that resulted in bannings more often. I don't come here to see posters rudely attacking other posters.

He was also given ample opportunity to apologize - and if he had - that would have been the end of it. He chose to continue the attack.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He was also given ample opportunity to apologize - and if he had - that would have been the end of it. He chose to continue the attack.

And if I remember correctly this wasn't his first time blowing up on another poster

[Enoch Root]

I thought it was a really good game. The blues are on a roll and really feeling it right now. They are doing everything right in all three zones, support each other really well, and rarely make mistakes. Very difficult team to play against.

And with a lead, they just shut everything down. And they kept everything on the wall, which they are great at, and is not at all how the Flames want to play. Despite that, the Flames stuck with it, kept battling, and earned themselves a well-deserved point.

Wasn't happy with the call on Brodie in OT, after everything the Blues got away with, but I'll ignore that. What infuriated me was how passive the PK was in OT. That is how they have been playing it this year, and it has failed them every single time. Frustrating.

Agree that Johnny looks like he isn't having fun.

The team is 8-4-2 in their last 14, despite the fact that the top line hasn't been at their best. I think the team is close, and finally getting some practice time this week will help.

[Sylvanfan]

St.Louis in a way reminds me of those 95 to 2003 era Devils teams with how committed they are to their system. They look every bit like a team who is not going to give up the title of Stanley Cup Champions.

The Flames surprised me by even getting that game to OT. Team still seems to be in the same gear they were after the Allstar break last year. Able to collect points but not looking like a team that will get more than 5-6 playoff games in.

[zamler]

Flames were fresh Blues were burnt out at the end of their road trip and people are tickled pink we got the game to OT? Team started slow, again, and it cost us a point. Lucky to get that.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Rubicant

I didn’t see anyone mention it yet but I was skimming the thread, I loved the hit by Bennett on Mceachern. He can be so valuable when he plays like that.

Not much credit will be given to Bennett for changing the emotion of the game in Calgary's favor. It threw St. Louis off, and although he was hit with a charging call, the check was in the chest of the opposing player, who had his head down.

If St. Louis had scored on the 4on4 instead of Tkachuk, Bennett would be vilified, but he understands that there are ways to effect a game beyond an end to end rush. Hamonic has that part covered.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by zamler

Flames were fresh Blues were burnt out at the end of their road trip and people are tickled pink we got the game to OT? Team started slow, again, and it cost us a point. Lucky to get that.

Rittich basically gave them the first goal.

In the 2nd, someone (Johnny?) set up Tkachuk right in the crease. If it hits his stick, it's 1-1. Instead it hits his skate and he doesn't convert. The play goes down to the other end and the Flames get a penalty. Blues score on the PP and it's 2-0 instead of 1-1.

Those are the breaks. It was a very even game for chances, despite the fact that the Blues play really well with the lead.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by zamler

Flames were fresh Blues were burnt out at the end of their road trip and people are tickled pink we got the game to OT? Team started slow, again, and it cost us a point. Lucky to get that.

St.Louis last played in Edmonton on Wednesday and just played their 18th game of the season. I'm sure they were exhausted!

The Flames have had it so easy going from Nashville to Columbus than to Washington DC the next day and back to Calgary with one off day to play 3 games in 5 nights.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

St.Louis last played in Edmonton on Wednesday and just played their 18th game of the season. I'm sure they were exhausted!

Blues last 9 of 10 games were on the road. But okay, Flames played great the Cup champs are simply on another level. Is that what makes you feel better?

[taxbuster]

IMO, the Flames ' problem with the Blues was all about getting off the boards and into the centre of the ice. That takes meat and muscle, not so much finesse. The smaller players on the Flames have problems doing that...and it cost them for much of the game. The Blues were VERY effective at keeping the Flames to the perimeter and shuffling the puck to the boards on a regular basis, as well as boxing out attempts to get to the middle. To their credit a couple of the Flames DID manage to work their way in front..just not often enough.

The few times they did manage to rush up the middle (I seem to recall a Backlund and Tkachuck rush through the D?) Binnington was there with a D-man to assist. Lousy bounces to be sure, but the Flames need to get in front of the net more...and they just don't do that on a habitual basis. Too many shots from too far out (one from outside the blue line!) just is not going to cut it in this league. If you can't get 5-15' in front of the net you're going to have problems when the going gets really tough.

To me, that is the overall biggest flaw in the Flames construction and execution. And it shows up every game they play against a generally bigger opponent.

I said to a pal about half-way through the third that it didn't look like the Flames were going to score - they had few dangerous opportunities to that point. Glad they did, but not so happy that they really didn't look "in the game" to that point.

But they got a good measuring stick as to what they need to do.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by zamler

Blues last 9 of 10 games were on the road. But okay, Flames played great the Cup champs are simply on another level. Is that what makes you feel better?

Hahaha! What?

19 Oct v. Mtl
21 Oct v. Col
24 Oct v. LAK
26 Oct @ Bos
27 Oct @ Det
30 Oct v Min
1 Nov v CBJ
2 Nov @ Min
5 Nov @ Van
6 Nov @ Edm

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by zamler

Blues last 9 of 10 games were on the road. But okay, Flames played great the Cup champs are simply on another level. Is that what makes you feel better?

Who said the Flames played great?

And yes St.Louis looks really good right now. Whats wrong with acknowleging that? I think it's pretty clear the Flames are not that level of team. This core can not make the same level of committment to competing night in and night out that Berube has the Blues doing.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Hahaha! What?

I feel shame, inverted most of what I was looking at.

soooooo.....I take back what I said Blues were not tired. Still not happy with how Calgary played.

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Who said the Flames played great?

And yes St.Louis looks really good right now. Whats wrong with acknowleging that? I think it's pretty clear the Flames are not that level of team. This core can not make the same level of committment to competing night in and night out that Berube has the Blues doing.

Why not?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by btimbit

And if I remember correctly this wasn't his first time blowing up on another poster

Under that username or an old one?

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Disagree. That poster was way over the top, and rude, and directed it at another poster who absolutely did not deserve that. And it was not new for this poster to do crap like that.

Agreed. Addition by subtraction in regards to that particular poster.