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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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16.80% |
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Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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197 |
30.35% |
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Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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187 |
28.81% |
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Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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107 |
16.49% |
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Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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7.55% |
10-09-2019, 03:24 PM
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#2921
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by natsmt
4 of his 6 goals have been assisted by McDavid.
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And those assists were big time ones. McDavid created all of them, Neal, to his credit, finished. But most players would have.
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10-09-2019, 03:42 PM
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#2922
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
The Flames top unit was #18 in the NHL? Where does one find this information?
That's a tough sell when every single member of the top unit had a career year in powerplay production. All five of them were in the top-50 in powerplay points—how does that happen when the top unit is not among the top-ten powerplay units?
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For an academic, research in not your strongest point
took me less than a minute link
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10-09-2019, 03:43 PM
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#2923
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
most of his goals are assisted by mcdavid...on the PP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by natsmt
4 of his 6 goals have been assisted by McDavid.
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This just in: Klefbom and RNH play on a line with McDavid this year.
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10-09-2019, 03:46 PM
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#2924
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
For an academic, research in not your strongest point
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Duh. That is not what I was asking for.
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10-09-2019, 03:47 PM
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#2925
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
For an academic, research in not your strongest point
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Lol. The guy said #1 PP unit was 18th in the league. Not overall PP.
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10-09-2019, 03:47 PM
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#2926
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
This just in: Klefbom and RNH play on a line with McDavid this year.
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I thought Klefbom was a d-man?
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10-09-2019, 03:51 PM
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#2927
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
For an academic, research in not your strongest point
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That's team %, not the top unit's.
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10-09-2019, 03:53 PM
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#2928
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Fixed my post referring to that stat for correction. I was entirely referring to the team being 18th in PP%, not the number one unit.
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10-09-2019, 03:54 PM
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#2929
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Franchise Player
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I would have given Neal another year but not sure how his salary would have factored into the Chucky signing/cap situation (whether moving Frolic would have been enough etc.)...
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10-09-2019, 04:12 PM
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#2930
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
This just in: Klefbom and RNH play on a line with McDavid this year.
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your "point" was that he doesn't play on a line with McDavid...when he does play on a power play line with McDavid and that is how he has scored his goals
common denominator is....you guessed it
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10-09-2019, 04:15 PM
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#2931
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
your "point" was that he doesn't play on a line with McDavid...when he does play on a power play line with McDavid and that is how he has scored his goals
common denominator is....you guessed it
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No one calls it a PP line. It's a PP unit.
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10-09-2019, 04:21 PM
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#2932
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I'm happy for Neal, I hope he does well. In the same vein, I hope Lucic has a great year too. I don't get the notion that you have to wish ill will on someone just because they're no longer on your team.
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10-09-2019, 04:29 PM
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#2933
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Are you saying that the Flames are not deep? They scored 289 goals with 7 from Neal.
Lindholm turned into one of the top RW in the league. Frolik fit well with Backlund and even though seemed done 2 years ago was great when put back on the 2nd line.
Ryan was brought in as a 3rd line C. Bennett never got even a month run in the top 6 after.
Jankowski seemed poised to replace Backlund as #2C.
Can't be sarcastic about the depth of the Flames.
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Just imagine the sales pitch that the Flames gave to Neal to get him to sign as a UFA.
Pretty sure it included that he was what the Flames top-6 was missing and he would be on the 1st PP unit.
He gets off to a poor start and he is playing 10-12 minutes a game with depth players that would only get top-6 minutes with 2 injuries to the regular top-6.
Yep Neal was awful, but his treatment here was way below his expectations.
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I don't think the Flames are deep on RW, and the fact that Neal was unable to cement a top 6 role is more because of his poor play, not lack of opportunity.
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10-09-2019, 04:29 PM
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#2934
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
No one calls it a PP line. It's a PP unit.
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lol this guy...so what is your point exactly?
Neal is scoring largely with help from McDavid so you pointing out they aren't on a line technically is irrelevant.
They are on the ice together...call it whatever you want
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10-09-2019, 04:30 PM
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#2935
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Real (Deal) talk: Neal just wanted the free trip to China.
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10-09-2019, 05:23 PM
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#2936
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
I'm happy for Neal, I hope he does well. In the same vein, I hope Lucic has a great year too. I don't get the notion that you have to wish ill will on someone just because they're no longer on your team.
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Regularly I'd agree, but it's different territory when this player plays for the Oilers.
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10-09-2019, 05:28 PM
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#2937
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Real (Deal) talk: Neal just wanted the free trip to China.
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Neal thought China wasn't that bad, don't judge .
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10-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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#2938
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Lucic adds more to the Flames than Neal did and vice versa. End of story. Let’s move on.
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10-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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#2939
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Way I see it...
2019-20 Neal might be an upgrade on 2019-20 Lucic. He might even be a huge upgrade.
But 2019-20 Lucic is already an upgrade on 2018-19 Neal... and if the trade hadn't happened, 2019-20 Neal might not exist as we know him.
I'm sure the Oilers feel great about this but I'm not convinced it's a zero-sum equation
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10-09-2019, 05:34 PM
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#2940
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
lol this guy...so what is your point exactly?
Neal is scoring largely with help from McDavid so you pointing out they aren't on a line technically is irrelevant.
They are on the ice together...call it whatever you want
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What is your point exactly?
My previous posts were very clear.
Let me help you out. Post 2869 is the first one.
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