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		|  08-11-2019, 05:19 PM | #2 |  
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			On Lindholm:"He was probably the biggest steal in the NHL as far as trades go," Rupp said. "It certainly helps playing with the guys he plays with, but I always thought that he played the game with a high level. I liked him when he was in Carolina, but he's surrounded by a lot of talent now and can create for them, not just the other way around."
 
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			Here's the Johnny and Tkachuk specific videos:
 
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			I don’t watch Toronto much at all, but is Marner really at that level? I always assumed Gaudreau was better, but wondering if someone who watches a lot of Marner would agree with his placement on this list.
		 
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			I didn't disagree too much with anything, until I got to Huberdeau - he seemed a little high to me.  But that's nitpicking.
 Also, I think of Giroux as a C, but whatever.
 
 Regardless of the actual ranking numbers, this list shows the strength of Calgary's lineup.
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		|  08-11-2019, 06:05 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by VilleN  I don’t watch Toronto much at all, but is Marner really at that level? I always assumed Gaudreau was better, but wondering if someone who watches a lot of Marner would agree with his placement on this list. |  
Gaudreau had more goals and more points.  Also has better stats over their 3-year careers.
 
Gaudreau should be higher.  But they are pretty close to a tie IMO.
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					Originally Posted by VilleN  I don’t watch Toronto much at all, but is Marner really at that level? I always assumed Gaudreau was better, but wondering if someone who watches a lot of Marner would agree with his placement on this list. |  
Yes. You could argue he’s the best player on that team.
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		|  08-11-2019, 06:33 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by VilleN  I don’t watch Toronto much at all, but is Marner really at that level? I always assumed Gaudreau was better, but wondering if someone who watches a lot of Marner would agree with his placement on this list. |  
Marner has led teams with Auston Matthews and John Tavares in scoring, and is a strong penalty killer too. I don't think there's any denying how elite he is.
		 
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		|  08-11-2019, 06:45 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flaming Homer  Yes. You could argue he’s the best player on that team. |  
Which seems to be a problem, Dufas signing Matthews to a crazy 5 x $11.634m early was a massive mistake. without that contract Marner would have signed for much less that he's going to.
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		|  08-11-2019, 06:58 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Enoch Root  Gaudreau had more goals and more points.  Also has better stats over their 3-year careers.
 Gaudreau should be higher.  But they are pretty close to a tie IMO.
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Given their ages I would say its not apples to apples.
 
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		|  08-11-2019, 07:24 PM | #11 |  
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			It's a cardinal sin to place Drysaddle ahead of Johnny on any list. Johnny is the straw that stirs the drink, the German leech does not do that.
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					Originally Posted by GranteedEV  Marner has led teams with Auston Matthews and John Tavares in scoring, and is a strong penalty killer too. I don't think there's any denying how elite he is. |  
Good point. Also didn’t know he was defensively responsible as well. Without watching him much, it’s hard to know if he’s just being propped up because he’s in Toronto.
		 
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					Originally Posted by djsFlames  It's a cardinal sin to place Drysaddle ahead of Johnny on any list. Johnny is the straw that stirs the drink, the German leech does not do that. |  
I didn't think even somebody from the east was dumb enough to fall for that.
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					Originally Posted by djsFlames  It's a cardinal sin to place Drysaddle ahead of Johnny on any list. Johnny is the straw that stirs the drink, the German leech does not do that. |  
I’m just happy Draisaitl is no longer considered a centre. Little victories.
		 
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			So in the playoff match-ups the Flames Avs series had the most elite forwards on display..   and more than the 5 on display for the SCF series.
 
 Calgary -Colorado  (7)  Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm, MacKinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog
 
 Boston – Toronto (6)  Marchand, Pasternak, Bergeron, Matthews, Tavares, Marner
 
 NYI-Pittsburgh (5)  Barzal, Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Kessel
 
 Winnipeg St.L   (5)  ROR, Taresenko, Schiefele, Wheeler, Laine
 
 Tampa – Columbus (5)  Kucherov, Stamkos, Point, Panarin, Duchene
 
 Washington -Carolina  (4) Ovechkin. Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Aho
 
 San Jose Vegas  (3) Couture, Pavelski  Stone
 
 Nashville-Dallas (2) Seguin, Benn
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		|  08-12-2019, 08:41 AM | #16 |  
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			I'm actually quite alright with the ranking when it comes to the Flames players. I'll say Mark Stone is a bit high. I would have expected Taylor Hall to be a bit higher. 
 If Stone's deal had gone through, we would have had 4 wingers on that Top 25 list.
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		|  08-12-2019, 10:42 AM | #17 |  
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			Draisaitl's ranking on this list is a crime. He should be somewhere beneath Tkachuk. Otherwise the list seems pretty good!
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