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Old 01-10-2007, 06:42 PM   #41
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A Maclean's article from the Jan 1/07 issue:

His secret's out
Justin Trudeau has decided to run for a seat in the next election

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/po..._138661_138661
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:31 PM   #42
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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:15 PM   #43
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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of
Sorry, I've lost track... are we talking about Bush Jr. or Trudeau Jr.?

I knew from the beginning the Georgie was a bad idea, and I take great pleasure in having been proven so correct. Same with the whole Kennedy Jr. clan. Are we really that desparate to emulate the US that we need to have our own Kennedy dynasty? What has Justin done to merit public office, other than having a famous father?
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:30 PM   #44
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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of

I second that!!! Crying before the milk is even spilled!!!

I was never a Liberal, never voted Liberal, but I do admire Trudeau, even though I was dead against the NEP and even though he ran Canada into a huge deficit to finance all the social programs and initiatives he introduced.

Why did I admire him? Well, for one thing, he put Canada on the international stage. For instance, he basically told the USA to take a little hike as he kept relations with Cuba and would visit with Fidel Castro. And I think he made Canada a kinder and gentler nation, a nation the rest of the world admires. Yes, we pay a lot for that "kind" image, but to most Canadians, that image is money well spent. And he brought a kind of intellect to the international stage that I think had been lacking from Canada. And he brought us our own constitution, yes a constitution with challenges, but one that is ours none the less. Yes he had charisma, many will say that is all he had, but he had it in spades and the Canadian public bought into that hook, line and sinker, for 14 years.

But what I really admire about him is the fact that he governed according to his principles. Right, many dont think he had principles, that he was arrogant and part of that might be true. But this is what I am trying to say. I mean that no matter how unpopular some of these principles of his were, no matter how unpopular some of the bills he brought before Parliament were, he finished what he started, without all of the garbage polling that goes on today. In other words, he had some spine, perhaps too much according to some people.

Now what I really admire about him is how he raised his children. Yes, we dont see inside the home, but it is pretty hard to fake stuff like that, and from what I can see, his children are intelligent, principled and have a social conscience. And he was basically a single parent running a country at the same time. Any books or articles I have ever read state over and over again that Trudeua was so proud of his children and did a wonderful job raising them. And the love in the family obviously was mutual The eulogy Justin gave for his father was one that still brings tears to my eyes today.

Dont condemn people before you know anything about them. Everyone, no matter who their father is or was, no matter what political party they run for, everyone deserves a chance to serve this country.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:56 PM   #45
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I always thought he should have been tossed into a ditch instead of given a state funeral.
And ****ed on.

I could echo every word you said. Maybe he could go back to Siberia?
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I always thought he should have been tossed into a ditch instead of given a state funeral.




And ****ed on.
Just plain crude.
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I second that!!! Crying before the milk is even spilled!!!

I was never a Liberal, never voted Liberal, but I do admire Trudeau, even though I was dead against the NEP and even though he ran Canada into a huge deficit to finance all the social programs and initiatives he introduced.

Why did I admire him? Well, for one thing, he put Canada on the international stage. For instance, he basically told the USA to take a little hike as he kept relations with Cuba and would visit with Fidel Castro. And I think he made Canada a kinder and gentler nation, a nation the rest of the world admires. Yes, we pay a lot for that "kind" image, but to most Canadians, that image is money well spent. And he brought a kind of intellect to the international stage that I think had been lacking from Canada. And he brought us our own constitution, yes a constitution with challenges, but one that is ours none the less. Yes he had charisma, many will say that is all he had, but he had it in spades and the Canadian public bought into that hook, line and sinker, for 14 years.

But what I really admire about him is the fact that he governed according to his principles. Right, many dont think he had principles, that he was arrogant and part of that might be true. But this is what I am trying to say. I mean that no matter how unpopular some of these principles of his were, no matter how unpopular some of the bills he brought before Parliament were, he finished what he started, without all of the garbage polling that goes on today. In other words, he had some spine, perhaps too much according to some people.

Now what I really admire about him is how he raised his children. Yes, we dont see inside the home, but it is pretty hard to fake stuff like that, and from what I can see, his children are intelligent, principled and have a social conscience. And he was basically a single parent running a country at the same time. Any books or articles I have ever read state over and over again that Trudeua was so proud of his children and did a wonderful job raising them. And the love in the family obviously was mutual The eulogy Justin gave for his father was one that still brings tears to my eyes today.

Dont condemn people before you know anything about them. Everyone, no matter who their father is or was, no matter what political party they run for, everyone deserves a chance to serve this country.
Sorry you confused me when you talked about him serving his country, Trudeau served his party and his own legacy, and screwed over half the country in doing it. If the country ended at the Ontario border you could say he served his country.

And siding with Castro at the height of the cold war didn't make Canada a kinder and gentler nation, it made it a foolish nation. Yep I remember that this was the same Castro that begged Kruschev for permission to launch the functional nuclear missiles at the U.S. during the missile crisis. And the same Castro that ruthelessly consolidated his hold on his nation by destroying any notion of human and civil rights in his own nation. That was sure I guy that I wanted to be siding with. Glorious.

And the bringing of those unpopular bills and ramming them through the government, that was sure a prime example of Trudeau and democracy in action.

I really don't care about how he raised his kids either. Even some of the biggest despots raised pretty decent kids, but that dosen't make the father any less of a creep.

Trudeau, the man who split the country, destroyed the military, loved siding with tyrants just so that he could say that he was anti-U.S. Oh and I forgot gave the fingers to citizen's who didn't like what he was doing, what a class act. Spent this country into a debt that we'll still be paying for long after his hair and fingersnails stop growing. Hip Hip Hooray, what a terrific guy.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:02 AM   #48
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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of
you know what - he might be an awesome leader if he chooses to go that route but just his name will have a LOT of people (out west) on guard. so what? probably a good thing. people should watch their government closely.

also, people should be on guard. fathers' values, attitudes and mannerisms often pass on to their sons. especially sons that start following in daddy's footsteps.
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One thing in Justin's favor is that he went to UBC and taught school in Victoria. Should give him a better view of the west and not become in the east's big business back pockets.

Other offspring to possibly enter politics are his brother Alexandre [Sacha] and Joe Clarks daughter, Catherine. With Ben Mulroney they could sometime be forming an elite in our political system.
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Trudeau was brutal.

He definitely did some positive things but the negatives far out-weighed them and he will go down as a right nut job in my books.

I had some close family members who moved to Alberta from the States and literally had to give the keys for their house to the bank and leave the country due to lost jobs as a result of the NEP -- nor where they the only ones.

Alberta went from one extreme to the other for a lot of residents.
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also, people should be on guard. fathers' values, attitudes and mannerisms often pass on to their sons. especially sons that start following in daddy's footsteps.
He has also stated publicly many times that he agreed with many of his fathers ideas. That alone should be enough to scare the bajesus out of you.
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I second that!!! Crying before the milk is even spilled!!!

I was never a Liberal, never voted Liberal, but I do admire Trudeau, even though I was dead against the NEP and even though he ran Canada into a huge deficit to finance all the social programs and initiatives he introduced.

Why did I admire him? Well, for one thing, he put Canada on the international stage. For instance, he basically told the USA to take a little hike as he kept relations with Cuba and would visit with Fidel Castro. And I think he made Canada a kinder and gentler nation, a nation the rest of the world admires. Yes, we pay a lot for that "kind" image, but to most Canadians, that image is money well spent. And he brought a kind of intellect to the international stage that I think had been lacking from Canada. And he brought us our own constitution, yes a constitution with challenges, but one that is ours none the less. Yes he had charisma, many will say that is all he had, but he had it in spades and the Canadian public bought into that hook, line and sinker, for 14 years.

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He was a better politician on the international stage (debatable), but had half of his own country hate him. In my mind you should be looking after your own country before you worry about other countries. I honestly find it hard to believe that you can admire someone that did so many bad things to half the country.

As for his son, do you really think he is not going to follow his fathers "legace"? I'm sure he has growen up surrounded by people who loved his father and in turn loved him the same way. And considering he was raised by his father I am sure that it is ingrained into his mind how the country should be operated. I could be wrong, but I'm not putting my money on the side that says he is different than his father.
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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of
If we cant fault him for his dad we cant praise him for his dad either - you cant say include the good but exclude the bad.

Fact is that he hasnt done anything and is running for Federal Government, he is running on NAME NAME NAME.

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Some people just make me sick. The people that have already decided they hate this kid and he's just like his father. Know your **** before you spout off, discuss some of the views he's expressed Himself. Not what his father did decades ago.

You sound like a group of bitter old men, "well I didn't like his dad soooo" don't fault him on something he has no control of
Face it, he is a "star candidate" exclusively because of his father. He's riding his fathers legacy, therefore he deserves the crap that comes with it.

If Trudeau 2.0 wants my respect, he should run in a Calgary riding.
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If Trudeau 2.0 wants my respect, he should run in a Calgary riding.
not just any calgary riding - make him go for calgary south east.
or heck - why not crowfoot - didn't they have the highest conservative vote out of anywhere in canada?

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not just any calgary riding - make him go for calgary south east.

Run him in my riding, that would be funny, he'd get less votes then the communist party
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ah jeez - just the thought of trudeau 2.0 knocking on doors around calgary made me smile....
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I don't know if any of you remember his wedding a couple of years ago. Justin and his wife had this extravagant wedding. They sold the rights to the wedding photos to the highest bidder (as if anyone west of the Ontario border really even cared) and what caused the biggest stir was that the RCMP stood guard over the wedding ceremony and posed for the pictures. The mounties were dressed in their full red uniforms. The media was calling them Canadian royalty and praising him and a future Canadian Prime Minister.

I don't know about any of you but this whole scene made me not like Justin Trudeau. Not only does our liberal media make him look like a king, but it brainwashes younger generations, who may not know what his father did, into believing he is some kind of important figure head in Canada. What did he do to deserve the RCMP to stand guard. Oh right, absolutley nothing besides have a famous dad. I read that he charges $25000 to speak at functions. Why? Because he's PET's kid.

I bet if any one of the posters here asked to have the RCMP stand over our weddings we would get a laughed at. But Justin Trudeau, sure we'll send 4 mounties to your wedding at taxpayer expense, we'll even get them to pose for some photos with you. I wonder if the liberal party had a hand in calling the RCMP and ordering them to do so?

If Justin Trudeau is elected to office it is because of name and name only. He'll run in a safe riding were he looks like Canada's prince and he'll win by a landslide. Snake Eye put it best in a post above, if he wants to show his real political metal, run in Calgary or rural Alberta. I bet his reception won't be as rosey.

Below is an article about his wedding. Try and guess if the woman who writes it is a Trudeau supporter.

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/ca...06678#continue
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I don't know if any of you remember his wedding a couple of years ago. Justin and his wife had this extravagant wedding. They sold the rights to the wedding photos to the highest bidder (as if anyone west of the Ontario border really even cared) and what caused the biggest stir was that the RCMP stood guard over the wedding ceremony and posed for the pictures. The mounties were dressed in their full red uniforms. The media was calling them Canadian royalty and praising him and a future Canadian Prime Minister.

I don't know about any of you but this whole scene made me not like Justin Trudeau. Not only does our liberal media make him look like a king, but it brainwashes younger generations, who may not know what his father did, into believing he is some kind of important figure head in Canada. What did he do to deserve the RCMP to stand guard. Oh right, absolutley nothing besides have a famous dad. I read that he charges $25000 to speak at functions. Why? Because he's PET's kid.

I bet if any one of the posters here asked to have the RCMP stand over our weddings we would get a laughed at. But Justin Trudeau, sure we'll send 4 mounties to your wedding at taxpayer expense, we'll even get them to pose for some photos with you. I wonder if the liberal party had a hand in calling the RCMP and ordering them to do so?

If Justin Trudeau is elected to office it is because of name and name only. He'll run in a safe riding were he looks like Canada's prince and he'll win by a landslide. Snake Eye put it best in a post above, if he wants to show his real political metal, run in Calgary or rural Alberta. I bet his reception won't be as rosey.

Below is an article about his wedding. Try and guess if the woman who writes it is a Trudeau supporter.

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/ca...06678#continue
God, I can't stop puking after reading that article. What a couple of snobs.
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I know. Nothing says small intimate wedding like having your wife ride up in a $400,000 Rolls Royce.
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