05-28-2019, 09:16 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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The Athletic: Absent for over a decade, the Russians are coming (again) to Calgary
https://theathletic.com/984499/2019/...in-to-calgary/
Some highlights for those without a subscription:
Craig Button thinks the Flames failed Andrei Taratukhin. Says Taratukhin came willing to play in the minors while his wife and newborn twins stayed in Russia because of Visa issues. Played all 80 games and was tied for the team lead in points and only returned to Russia after a year because he felt that the Flames would never give him an opportunity.
Treliving says that Rafikov kept saying that he wanted to stay in Russia for another year and never really seemed engaged in coming over. Says his development has stagnated.
All 3 Russians (Zav, Yel, Zag) will be at development camp in July.
Likes Yelesin's attitude - real upbeat kid.
Decent first pass. Hard defender. Rugged. Bomb of a shot. Not a puck distributor but supports the play.
Zagidulin is raw and needs physical development.
Looks like they expect him to start in the AHL with Parsons.
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05-28-2019, 09:27 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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There was also the rumour of the 3rd Russian being signed by Calgary, Andrei Chibisov.
I don't believe he has signed anywhere yet.
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05-28-2019, 09:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Any mention of Karnaukhov?
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05-28-2019, 09:36 PM
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damn onions
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Nm
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05-28-2019, 10:23 PM
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All I can get
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Zagidulin's signing likely spells the end of Jon Gillies' tenure with the organization. I expect him to be moved in a minor league deal.
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05-28-2019, 10:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Also a good sign that drafting Russians is a thing again. There's like 5-6 in the Flames range this draft that have high upside.
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05-28-2019, 10:33 PM
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All I can get
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Top Flames Russian goaltenders
1. Andrei Trefilov
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2. Andrei Medvedev
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05-28-2019, 11:22 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sweden
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Top Flames Russian goaltenders
1. Andrei Trefilov
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Well, at least Andrei Trefilov finally got to be top-something.
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05-28-2019, 11:50 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Russia has never been any good at producing defenders.
We seem to get a vezina caliber goalie in every generation (Vasilevskiy, Bobrovskiy, Varlamov, Khabibulin), but we are not a goalies factory like Finland. Russia is mostly about two-way centers (Malkin, Datsyuk, Fedorov) and high-scoring wingers, who usually play on their off-side.
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05-29-2019, 08:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
Russia has never been any good at producing defenders.
We seem to get a vezina caliber goalie in every generation (Vasilevskiy, Bobrovskiy, Varlamov, Khabibulin), but we are not a goalies factory like Finland. Russia is mostly about two-way centers (Malkin, Datsyuk, Fedorov) and high-scoring wingers, who usually play on their off-side.
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There used to be top quality defencemen too: Fetisov, Konstantinov, etc. And they still have a bunch of very good ones.
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05-29-2019, 09:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Zagidulin's signing likely spells the end of Jon Gillies' tenure with the organization. I expect him to be moved in a minor league deal.
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Which i agree should happen, but up until that last while the guy has had several seasons where he was top 10 in save % in whatever league he was in. That hip surgery set him back and he is 25. If I was an org with room for a goalie in the minors, Gillies is a free option that could turn out. Binnington is a year older. Drafting and developing goalies is a fools errand it seems.
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05-29-2019, 09:42 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
There used to be top quality defencemen too: Fetisov, Konstantinov, etc. And they still have a bunch of very good ones.
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+ Kasatonov, Zubov, etc
(but yeah, i guess the recent trend is that they're not producing high-end D)
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05-29-2019, 10:11 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12
+ Kasatonov, Zubov, etc
(but yeah, i guess the recent trend is that they're not producing high-end D)
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There are some pretty good ones though.
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05-29-2019, 10:29 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Top Flames Russian goaltenders
1. Andrei Trefilov
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Medvedev was better at eating pastries. Didn't he eat 6 before a World Jr game? 
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05-29-2019, 12:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Top Flames Russian goaltenders
1. Andrei Trefilov
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Also
Top Flames Russian Draft Picks
1. Sergei Makarov
2. German Titov
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3. All other Russian draft picks
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05-29-2019, 02:57 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Any mention of Karnaukhov?
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nope
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05-29-2019, 08:36 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Top Flames Russian goaltenders
1. Andrei Trefilov
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2. Andrei Medvedev
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Are you comparing their body of work?
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05-29-2019, 08:40 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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05-30-2019, 01:14 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC
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Top Flames Russian Draft Picks
1. Sergei Makarov
2. German Titov
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So Flames just have to draft post apex Russians and they will work out.
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05-30-2019, 11:16 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Any mention of Karnaukhov?
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I wouldn't hold any hope for him.
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