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Old 03-11-2019, 01:29 PM   #13021
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He only make 6m next season. Easy to fit in with basically any significant salary moved out. (Frolik, Brodie, Stone)

Frolik, 1st, Kylington, prospect for example
So we give that up for one year of Hall? What’s his next contract cost you?
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:31 PM   #13022
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So we give that up for one year of Hall? What’s his next contract cost you?
probably 8 or 8.5. Flames have a ton of salary coming off the books after next year and the cap is probably going to keep going up.

I'd assume if he wants to play here he'd take a 1-1.5m paycut to play in his home town on a cup contender.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Hall-Backlund-Tkachuk
Bennett-Dube-Neal
Mangiapane-Jankowski-Ryan


That is a scary forward line-up. Best in the league? Only comparable would be Tampa.

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Old 03-11-2019, 02:49 PM   #13023
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when did phagoof become an insider
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:50 PM   #13024
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Rumor has it I'm an insider.

Wow, that was easy.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:52 PM   #13025
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Rumor has it I'm an insider.

Wow, that was easy.
Can confirm, heard this being discussed at Orange Julious.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:06 PM   #13026
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I've heard through the grape vine that the Flames are going to be gunning for Hall in the OS.
Sigh... what grape vine would that be?


Don't all "sources" have to be verified by the mods?
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:11 PM   #13027
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probably 8 or 8.5. Flames have a ton of salary coming off the books after next year and the cap is probably going to keep going up.

I'd assume if he wants to play here he'd take a 1-1.5m paycut to play in his home town on a cup contender.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Hall-Backlund-Tkachuk
Bennett-Dube-Neal
Mangiapane-Jankowski-Ryan


That is a scary forward line-up. Best in the league? Only comparable would be Tampa.
OK I'll bite. 'Ton of salary coming off the books' isn't quite accurate. If bad only bad contracts expire that is wonderful, but we unfortunately have many more good contracts that are expiring after next year.

Although there are multiple expiring contracts, many are on very good deals (Kylington 0.7m, Andersson 0.8m, Hamonic 3.9m). Personally I include Brodie's 4.6m in the 'very good deal' territory for what he provides, but I don't want this conversation to go sideways on that opinion alone. In addition, expiring contracts like Jankowski's 1.7m and Czarnik's 1.3m are not going to be replaced by many cheaper options, and could quite easily become more expensive to re-sign by next summer.

Stone's 3.5m and Frolik's 4.3m are the two main 'bad' contracts (given their current performance) that will be coming off the books. They aren't horrendous contracts in the big picture, and are likely to be replaced by players earning the same amount.

There's no big reprieve of albatross contracts coming up. We're a good team and with that means that there will be good young players coming up who will deserve to get paid like Tkachuk and likely the defencemen.

Finally, who the heck knows what Hall will sign for and after his experience in Edmonton I wouldn't be surprised if he never wants to return to Alberta for hockey, let alone take a discount.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:37 PM   #13028
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Friedman on 960 says that he has heard Teves has narrowed his list down to 3 teams. He says it is very likely Teves will sign with a team that will allow him to burn the first year of his ELC and expect a decision in the next 24 to 48 hours.
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Friedman on 960 says that he has heard Teves has narrowed his list down to 3 teams. He says it is very likely Teves will sign with a team that will allow him to burn the first year of his ELC and expect a decision in the next 24 to 48 hours.
Though he is a local kid, i really doubt he chooses Calgary with both the competition for a spot he will face as well as actually burning a full year for one game doesn't seem like a Treliving thing to do with someone of this stature.

He did it for Johnny of course but completely different level of expectation between the two.
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Friedman on 960 says that he has heard Teves has narrowed his list down to 3 teams. He says it is very likely Teves will sign with a team that will allow him to burn the first year of his ELC and expect a decision in

the next 24 to 48 hours.

Edmonton, Vancouver, Toronto?
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Though he is a local kid, i really doubt he chooses Calgary with both the competition for a spot he will face as well as actually burning a full year for one game doesn't seem like a Treliving thing to do with someone of this stature.

He did it for Johnny of course but completely different level of expectation between the two.
If you want to sign a college player these days, you have to burn a year off his contract. That's pretty much the going rate.
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I've heard through the grape vine that the Flames are going to be gunning for Hall in the OS. He wants to play here apparently.
Cool, we have a Hall pass

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Would be surprised at all if Treliving has talked about it with New Jersey, and Hall does come here still in the off-season so that wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to play here.

I don't see Treliving being willing to give up what would be asked of him to trade for Hall though.
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Would be surprised at all if Treliving has talked about it with New Jersey, and Hall does come here still in the off-season so that wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to play here.

I don't see Treliving being willing to give up what would be asked of him to trade for Hall though.
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Would be surprised at all if Treliving has talked about it with New Jersey, and Hall does come here still in the off-season so that wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to play here.

I don't see Treliving being willing to give up what would be asked of him to trade for Hall though.
Wonder if a deal involving James Neal would interest New Jersey?. It hasn't worked out for James here but he is a consistent scorer over the years. Cap hits are very close.
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Would be surprised at all if Treliving has talked about it with New Jersey, and Hall does come here still in the off-season so that wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to play here.

I don't see Treliving being willing to give up what would be asked of him to trade for Hall though.
What's our Adam Larrson equivalent player on a one-for-one deal?
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What's our Adam Larrson equivalent player on a one-for-one deal?
Equivalent player to Larrson would be Lazar. 1st round pick that someone might actually think is good because he scored a lot in junior.
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I've heard through the grape vine that the Flames are going to be gunning for Hall in the OS. He wants to play here apparently. Makes sense, hes a CGY boy. The oiler stink is off him.

*Hides*
No thanks big time! When teams he plays for struggle he disappears. Very talented player but he has the hockey IQ of Zack Kassian. He is also going to be looking for 11M/yr minimum.
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Equivalent player to Larrson would be Lazar. 1st round pick that someone might actually think is good because he scored a lot in junior.
Larsson was a 4th overall pick, and the first defemseman taken in the draft.
Lazar was 17th.

Not the same.
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