[Rumour] Friedman: Flames to start pushing for Simmonds?

[oldschoolcalgary]

I think Simmonds would get PP time on the second unit, which quite frankly would need a boost.

just uncertain if the cost of what Philly wants is actually worth it...

gilles probably isn't someone that interests Philly with Carter Hart as their future netminder and them acquiring Talbot at his mentor...

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by AC

I disagree. Simmonds would bring a much needed physical edge and toughness to our team, which is something we need to survive a mean playoff series against SJ (E. Kane), VGS (Reaves), or WPG (Byfuglien).

He's been a PP beast too in his career.

Those things all applied to Martin Hanzal when he was traded to Minnesota in 2017(?). Enormous body if not injury-prone, good scorer, good on the powerplay, with past playoff success.

Any team that gives up a first for Simmonds will regret it, imo. If it's the Flames, well, I hope I'm wrong.

[GranteedEV]

Simmonds has pretty ugly underlying numbers. Definitely not an encouraging sign overall and why I wouldn't pay much to acquire him.

As a buy low though? The one encouraging thing about his 5v5 numbers is that he has yet to pick up a secondary assist - all his points are primary points. This could be a sign of poor teammate quality and does separate him from Brouwer who was the beneficiary of guys like Kane, Toews, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Stastny for years.

But I cringe when people talk about acquiring a guy because he's physical. If he can't impact the game shift for shift, I don't care how tough a customer he is.

[TheScorpion]

If Simmonds costs a 3rd and a prospect, then who cares, fine. But I'd imagine Philly would just keep him for that price.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Why do people keep saying big? He's got league average height and below average weight. He is gritty, obviously.

I'm just not sure he fits the profile of the Flames.

Because he plays much bigger than his measurements. He plays that power forward style.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Simmonds costs a 3rd and a prospect, then who cares, fine. But I'd imagine Philly would just keep him for that price.

I think this is what will happen. Philly will hold onto him rather than take a 3rd, maybe a B prospect too at best.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

You must be looking at the wrong stats or I haven’t had my morning coffee.

He’s negative in pretty much every single category, while his PDO is a little low this year yes. He is what he is, and I think he’s overrated and will cost too much. 30-40% of his points come on the PP and he’s not getting that opportunity here.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...simmowa01.html

Ah I'm looking at his total Corsi you're looking at just his even strength. I guess that's fair as he stopped killing penalties this year though historically has killed penalties and played pp

I still wouldn't say those are terrible numbers. His Corsi and Fenwick are 49.. Pretty close to a 50 career

Like I said I think he'd be ideal to pair with Tkachuk and backlund... Backlund d balances out the line and his sandpaper would play well with Tkachuk plus that line could use a shooter

For the 2020 2nd and a late pick I'd be fine with it

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Because he plays much bigger than his measurements. He plays that power forward style.

He plays tough, I said that. But people keep saying that he's adds size. He'd be right in the middle of height among forwards on the Flames, and on the light side.

[smiggy77]

I swear we have been linked to Simmonds for the last 10 years

[Philly06Cup]

Sentimentally I would love Simmonds to come win a cup in Calgary, but I don't see the fit. His advanced stats are terrible -- can't see bill Peters pushing for him. His biggest selling point is his power play presence and leadership/physicality. Nashville and Vegas needs to boost their PP; Boston seems to like physical style players for the playoffs.

Re: trade cost. His acquisition cost was initially rumored to be a 1st plus, but no teams are biting on that. I'd be happy with the flyers getting a 2nd and a 3rd/prospect. Wouldn't be surprised if he stays because offers are too low and they want to push for a miracle run at the playoffs.

[sureLoss]

John Shannon @JSportsnet
Flyer source confirms that Wayne Simmonds has probably played his last game for the Flyers: “Likely but not 100% decided yet”

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

John Shannon @JSportsnet
Flyer source confirms that Wayne Simmonds has probably played his last game for the Flyers: “Likely but not 100% decided yet”

Saying a whole lot of nothing......no?

"He might never play in Philly again....but he might.....but they haven't decided yet"....garble garble.

[browna]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Saying a whole lot of nothing......no?

"He might never play in Philly again....but he might.....but they haven't decided yet"....garble garble.

I think if you're a so called insider you have to at least keep your name at the top of Twitter feeds these last few days, even if it's garble. Or not.

[sureLoss]

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
#Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher has now engaged in trade talks for Wayne Simmonds today. He’d been waiting until the last moment before deadline to give his team every chance to claw back in the race.

[dammage79]

Seen a tweet linking Simmonds to MTL. Think it was Pagnota?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Seen a tweet linking Simmonds to MTL. Think it was Pagnota?

Eklund

[442scotty]

Please no

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Eklund

I'll buy whatever he is selling when it comes to the Flyers. That's about the only team he seems to know what's up consistently.

[Duffalufagus]

Cool story glen.

[TheScorpion]

Simmonds to Montreal could be a decent fit, I guess. Could see Hudon being part of the return.