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Old 02-02-2019, 07:37 PM   #7921
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Just looking at Oilers on Capfriendly. They do not have one single good Value contract. Not one.

Flames have plenty;
Monahan
Gaudreau
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Backlund
Brodie
Giordano
Hanifin
Hamonic
Rittich

and to a lesser extent Janko and Bennett, as well as some great entry level contract players like Tkachuk, Valimaki, Kylington, Andersson, (Oilers don't have any of these either)

My god that is a pile of #### team.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:44 PM   #7922
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:56 PM   #7923
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Oilers passed by the Blues and if the Hawks hang on to their lead over the Wild they’ll only be one point up on 14th in the conference. They better make some deadline adds.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:56 PM   #7924
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Generational defensive effort by McDavid:

https://gfycat.com/ThoughtfulTintedDuiker
He was standing around like a pylon when Crosby scored that winner in Edmonton too. Dude has great offensive talent & skating and that's where it stops.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:53 PM   #7926
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Nothing good happens in OT when you sell out like Russell did. On the inital shot block attempt, as you can see, cross check notwithstanding, his player gets to the front and puts in the rebound if Talbot stops the first one.
Was that Larsson? as the other guy, literally does nothing and provides no resistance to stop his man from getting the puck in a non dangerous zone to putting it easily out front 2 seconds later.
McDavid went for the stick lift behind the line, missed, and then took the long way back to the scoring zone, as 3 on 3 if you’re not covering someone, someone is wide open, probably with a great chance to score.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:58 PM   #7927
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Lol, an Oiler fan in their PGT:

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Old 02-03-2019, 12:00 AM   #7928
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https://gfycat.com/ThoughtfulTintedDuiker
Never mind McDavid, did Talbot just drop his stick on purpose there?
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:47 AM   #7929
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He was standing around like a pylon when Crosby scored that winner in Edmonton too. Dude has great offensive talent & skating and that's where it stops.
Going full speed down the right side of the ice and cutting to the net.

Greatest player ever. Nobody is ever going to figure that out.
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In his own mind he was probably already gone on that glorious breakaway he was cheating so badly for.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:19 AM   #7931
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26th in the league!
How does that feel Edmonton?
Ok, I get it, you might be better than free falling Anaheim.
Only teams that completely collapse, are the ones that you’ll overtake

When Pocklington sold his soul for those Stanley Cups, did you really think the Devil only wanted his soul?
Maybe Lowe did his own deal with the devil to draft McBackcheck?..
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:49 AM   #7932
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The extra 6 million a year should get you something, though, shouldn't it?
In todays low-scoring game goals are so hard to come by, a single goal is easily worth $6M!

(Which is exactly the difference between Gaudreau and McDavid )
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:59 AM   #7933
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I don't know why you guys are piling on McWonderful. At least he was in the defensive zone. Ha. Ha. Ha. Such a pathetic effort.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:13 AM   #7934
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He was standing around like a pylon when Crosby scored that winner in Edmonton too. Dude has great offensive talent & skating and that's where it stops.
Would the media dare call him out on that and other similar plays?

They swoon so much I doubt they have the cahones.

That's part of the problem. McDavid's rep has surpassed him to the point that he and his 12.5 million are even immune from critique simply because he puts up a lot of points and looks pretty doing it. But when the game is on the line and he's drifting around in no man's land while they lose no one in the vicinity of that team is going to look his way. And that's why he will have no reason to improve on those parts of his game. Just the same as why Hall, Eberle and others before him didn't become more complete, winning players until they left.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:39 AM   #7935
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The extra 6 million a year should get you something, though, shouldn't it?
Haha this is the winning reply.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:48 AM   #7936
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It's cute that mcdavid gets all these individual accolades but no one in Edmonton nor the media raise any faults in his play. Instead he is given a hart trophy despite being the epitome of indivualism when the team is bottom 5.

Crosby was questioned for his faceoff ability, his whining to the refs, his ability to stay healthy yet he has proven each doubter wrong time and time again by winning and leading teams to cups, gold medals, etc.

Looking back at mcdavid's resume has he ever anything from hus team's perspective??

Yet the oilers do the most oilers thing ever and annoint him as their captain in their 2nd year.

All one can do is laugh at the oilers, their media and their fans. Blind leading the blind leading the blind.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:59 AM   #7937
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I have to think that the Oilers must appear on about 85% of all the no-trade lists for players with NTC's in their contracts.



This must make it pretty hard to wheel and deal (and to get any good deals) in trades, to go with having to overpay UFAs to come to Edmonton. The attraction of playing with McDavid (or coaching him for that matter) will be wearing off with the team continuing to flounder.



Hard to see how they make any significant improvements over the next few years. They pretty much have to play a long game: change their management totally, and rebuild through the draft (likely by trading what assets they do have for picks and prospects with no bargaining leverage asap).



I think being GM of that team is probably more challenging than any other gig in the league: high expectations, limited ability to make deals, horrible management, and the risk of dehydration if he doesn't drink the water.
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:10 AM   #7938
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As I think about it, it seems that the Oilers organization as a whole has the cart before the horse.

They seem to follow the "I'm team president, therefore I know..."

The "He was drafted in the first round, therefore he's NHL ready..."

The "He gets paid $6million, therefore he's a superstar..."

The issue is they look at things backward. If you hire someone to be president/gm/whatever the position doesn't make them a leader.

Wearing a 'C' on your jersey doesn't make you a leader.

Making millions a year doesn't make you a superstar.

Those titles should be reactions to the skillset, but the titles don't give someone any additional skills.

I'm sure we all know people who are elected to various positions (government, student politics, union, condo board) that think they are right because they were elected. Being elected doesn't bestow knowledge, holding a position doesn't bestow knowledge or skill. That's the issue with old boys clubs. The lack of understanding the difference between having the ability to hold the position and being given the position.

One of my favourite scenes from Game of Thones demonstrates this perfectly:

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Old 02-03-2019, 12:47 PM   #7939
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I have to think that the Oilers must appear on about 85% of all the no-trade lists for players with NTC's in their contracts.
Only 85%?? are you some kinda oilers fan trolling???

I think we're gonna start seeing teams giving out NECs, No Edmonton Clause, E = NG
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:49 PM   #7940
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Only 85%?? are you some kinda oilers fan trolling???

I think we're gonna start seeing teams giving out NECs, No Edmonton Clause, E = NG
Well, in fairness, presumably some of the players already on Edmonton might not list the Oilers.
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