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Old 01-29-2019, 07:23 PM   #581
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:34 PM   #582
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Wow the final stage of anger and typical of an Oiler loser, the insult. I hope to see you hang it’ll be nice to clean sweep you Oiler punks.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:36 PM   #583
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You don't see any irony in accusing someone else of deflecting and then refusing to answer a single question?

Couldn't care less you keep your vote on me, you can vote me till you're red in the face. You're still by far the most useless poster in this thread
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:39 PM   #584
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We can ignore eachother now /wave
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:46 PM   #585
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Wow the final stage of anger and typical of an Oiler loser, the insult. I hope to see you hang it’ll be nice to clean sweep you Oiler punks.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:50 PM   #586
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You don't see any irony in accusing someone else of deflecting and then refusing to answer a single question?

Couldn't care less you keep your vote on me, you can vote me till you're red in the face. You're still by far the most useless poster in this thread
You must be a blast at parties or with friends playing games. They don’t play the way you want and your anger rises up. I feel sorry for you but that’s your call. I’ll wave at you when your lynched for being an Oiler fan.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:56 PM   #587
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We need to stop taking things personally, please. We need to keep the actual discussion going.

We currently sit at
Voted HockeyGuy15 (1) - Agulati
Voted SebC (2) - DropIt, mrkajz44
Voted Scornfire (2) - crazy_eoj, WinnipegFan
Voted Crazy_Eoj (1) - Scornfire

We need to approach this with objectivity and not with a "revenge" approach throwing retaliatory accusations all over the place. We only have 1 mafia remaining, so let us be smart about this, and use the number game to our advantage.

It is also possible that the mafia will want to sneak through unnoticed in all the bickering and infighting. So let us all put down our pitchforks and hash out a discussion. We have 24 hours to the next lynch.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:51 PM   #588
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I believe I have a fairly good case for who should be lynched today. I can type it up in a document, to be posted whenever it needs to be. What time do y'all think would be optimal, in terms of allowing enough time for reactions but also enough room prior for other things to develop from which information could be gleaned?
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:05 PM   #589
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Unless someone lets something slip, it's a roll of the dice IMO. I'm not much help today... all these posts are blurring together. I'll give it a second reading tomorrow
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:08 PM   #590
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Puxlut, since you are around, active and still awake, you are qualified to address the question in the post you just thanked.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:19 PM   #591
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I’m going to bed now. But if you post it now or first thing in the morning some people will have feedback (depending on how juicy it is).
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I believe I have a fairly good case for who should be lynched today. I can type it up in a document, to be posted whenever it needs to be. What time do y'all think would be optimal, in terms of allowing enough time for reactions but also enough room prior for other things to develop from which information could be gleaned?
I would say lunchtime tomorrow at the latest. Why not just now though?

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Okay people, I will share my theory tonight (I haven't got it typed out yet), and we will have a full day to address it.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:01 PM   #594
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I'd just post it tonight, if you wait until lunchtime tomorrow the window becomes effectively 4-5 hours for a consensus to form, seems like most can't contribute too much during the work day
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Old 01-30-2019, 02:15 AM   #595
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I don't think all three mafia members will vote for the same person on day 1.
This has been a trip up for many of my ideas, and yet, I can't help but think that maybe they did. After all, they would not want to vote as a block all game, so the plan my have been to vote together day one, then split their votes later. So I did not let this idea weigh too heavily when going through my top suspects.

My top suspect, and my vote, is crazy_eoj. As I looked through the posts of my top suspects, none had the red flags that he does.

Behold, Day 1:

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Pux is talking a lot but not adding value, Asking for the two most high volume posters to post more is a really odd request. She is also flattering me and wanting more of my opinion.

It's a nice way for scum to hide. With EOJ having one vote on Pux I'm going to add a 2nd to increase the pressure.
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I read the vote backwards, Pux is voting for EOJ not EOJ voting for Pux so I am the only vote on Pux. Doesn't change my assessment.
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Ok based on that I will follow through on my initial reaction to Pux voting for me to make it 2 votes.
Here, crazy_eoj is is alignment with a known mafia.

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Scornfire who are you voting for tonight and why?
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When crazy_eoj asks this, the votes are as follows:

Scornfire (4): Hockeyguy15, SebC, devo22, bizaro86
agulati (4): WinnipegFan, mrkajz44, Bonded, GGG
Bonded (4): dissentowner, agulati, Fuzz, Puxlut
hasn't voted (3): Scornfire, DropIt, crazy_eoj

Scornfire is not likely to vote for himself. It is likely that he gets to cast the deciding vote. Bonded is at risk of a lynch, and while a shift onto Scornfire would save him, it could be suspicious later. But if Scornfire will vote for agulati, then things are relatively peachy for mafia. A (presumably) villager will be lynched, and while the mafia were in on it, it's not that hard to justify lyching a villager Day 1. Thus, the information crazy_eoj is asking for is very useful to mafia. It tells them if they are okay, or if they need to start contingency planning. As a villager, unless you already had a strong read on the game (something that crazy_eoj did not seem to have), why would you really care which way Scornfire votes?

Then, after Scornfire replies non-committedly, crazy_eoj goes ahead and puts the 5th vote on agulati, putting him into the lead until DropIt and Scornfire put the nails into Bonded.

Behold, Day 2:

Five votes on GGG. devo22 wants to vote GGG, but not set up hammer, while I don't want to leave us with less than five for threshold at deadline. I come off, devo22 goes on.

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Weekends are bad for me to be on here much. During the last night period as I was reading through the posts I also thought something was definitely off with GGGs posts. I think we have to lynch him next if everyone is seeing the same things?

Can’t ignore the fact so many are leaning the same direction.
First, interesting question mark. But also "can’t ignore the fact so many are leaning the same direction" is literally something that might've been said in the mafia chat if decided whether or crazy_eoj should vote on GGG or not. It would be a fine justification to vote on a teammate. He votes GGG, and it sets up hammer until devo22 pulls us back from the edge.

GGG then puts a vote on crazy_eoj, but he might already suspect he's hooped at this point, since there's been talk of keeping at least five votes on him. I do too, which was awkward, but it never gains more traction than that. IMO this is just as likely to direct us off his teammate than it is to be a legitimate hail mary.

devo22 then places the 6th vote, which I just noticed, WinnipegFan unvotes, re-votes, and GGG ends discussion by hammering himself.

Behold, Day 3:

crazy_eoj is currently voting on Scornfire. Scornfire, who I believe GGG inadvertently revealed to be town, particularly since GGG has flipped mafia. Scornfire, who cast the deciding vote against a troll. This is a poor vote. It would likely benefit the troll quite a bit if Scornfire were to be banned.

Behold, Conclusions:

crazy_eoj may be scum. There's at least enough reason to suspect him that it could be disastrous to leave him alive to the lynch-or-lose round. He needs to be lynched, and is unlikely to prove valuable later in the game as he is currently voting on a probable townie, so now is as good a time as any to ban him.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:35 AM   #597
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I have to admit with my reread of day 1 it was easy to forget crazy_oej was even playing. I've got some time here before 10 to do some more reading and decide who I am voting for.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:49 AM   #598
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crazy_eoj when you said this...

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Ok based on that I will follow through on my initial reaction to Pux voting for me to make it 2 votes.
What did you mean? As fas as I can tell you never reacted to the vote.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:54 AM   #599
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crazy_eoj when you said this...



What did you mean? As fas as I can tell you never reacted to the vote.
At that time I thought that GGG may be just 'piling on' to an early vote with a fabricated reason. My only true reason to vote for Pux at that time was because she voted for me.

However, once GGG held his vote even after realizing I had not yet cast mine I thought it showed he did have his own convictions outside of numbers. It's the first day after all there's not much to go on.

If I was an oilers fan, I don't think aligning so obviously with GGG on the very first day would be a wise move.
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< Still want some context for post #15.

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Gio for Norris!

How does the beginning of these games usually work? Do we randomly pick users to lynch or wait for some intel from our mod?
This is a post that bothers me both because it sets GGG up to try and pretend he's on our side via a discussion I had known to be taboo before we started, and it contains the word "Lynch" from a newbie on day 1, it's actually the first usage of the term
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