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tvp2003 · 01-02-2019, 10:22 AM

Forced rest for Rittich.

Smith has had lots of time off as well so hopefully he's rested and comes out sharp. Or at least not looking like the Smith of 2018.

I think it's also a chance to see if Gillies can find his game and be an eventual backup (i.e. to Rittich next year) so I wouldn't be opposed to him getting a start at some point. But not against Boston -- I remember Leland Irving getting lit up in Boston in a 9-0 loss...

Robo · 01-02-2019, 10:23 AM

Ffffffffffudge

Hockey_Ninja · 01-02-2019, 10:25 AM

I'll give Smith a chance here. But it doesn't seem like Rittich's injury is too serious

The Cobra · 01-02-2019, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto29

......and i understand he is an important part of the dressing room as well.

You know a player is playing poorly when this needs to be tossed around.

And it's not even stated as a fact LOL.

Strange Brew · 01-02-2019, 10:28 AM

Gillies has a GAA above four and a save percentage of .864 this year.

I don't see him getting a start unless we have two injured goalies.

Enoch Root · 01-02-2019, 10:30 AM

Giving Rittich 3 full days off, without having to dress or practice, would be beneficial.

Smith was getting this start anyway. And Boston is the perfect place to give Gillies a start.

Johnny Makarov · 01-02-2019, 10:31 AM

Well as long as Gaudreau and Monahan are playing god hockey it doesn't matter who is in net. It could be Doug Dadswell or Trevor Kidd in and we would still win!

Enoch Root · 01-02-2019, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Gillies has a GAA above four and a save percentage of .864 this year.

I don't see him getting a start unless we have two injured goalies.

IMO, stats in the A are irrelevant. Maybe they have been having him work on a particular part of his game. He has shown that he can start an NHL game.

Inferno · 01-02-2019, 10:34 AM

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I actually think it's the opposite TBH, where there are people irrationally defending him despite his play. How can anyone objectively have watched Smith this season and thought he's been any good? His demeanor in the net has been terrible, his puck tracking has been awful, and his timing of bad goals pretty much spot on. Other than his puck handling, what has been good about his game this year?

I think it's more than people are just tired of the constant complaining warranted or not rather than think he's been good this season. Everyone knows he's had a bad season but as someone who is unbiased to either goalie it gets tiring after a while hearing people say a goal he let in was bad but then Rittich lets in a similar goal and they say he had no chance.

A bad goal is a bad goal whether it's on Smith, Rittich, Price, Fleury, .etc. Rittich has played well enough where when he lets in a bad goal people shouldn't pile on him while Smith deserves it but they should atleast acknowledge it was bad. And if they don't think it was then they shouldn't think it was bad on Smith either no matter how bad they think he's been this season.

rotten42 · 01-02-2019, 10:39 AM

Oh great...we will be down 0-1 at 1:32 into the game on a soft goal.

sa226 · 01-02-2019, 10:40 AM

Smith on the road gives me slightly more confidence than Smith at home.

Bingo · 01-02-2019, 10:40 AM

Some silver linings ...

Smith is better on the road .911 vs .870

And was better in December

Oct .878
Nov .895
Dec .899

Inglewood Jack · 01-02-2019, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Everyone knows he's had a bad season but as someone who is unbiased to either goalie it gets tiring after a while hearing people say a goal he let in was bad but then Rittich lets in a similar goal and they say he had no chance.

examples please? Ritter's last bunch of games haven't been as dominant as early on, but I still don't remember the same level of stinkers fluttering past him like Smith. the worst I could say about any of them was "eh, maybe he could have had that" as opposed to "holy crap the puck just went through him like a ghost passing through a wall"

SoulOfTheFlame · 01-02-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto29

So many haters here. Every season someone picks the player to be whipping boy and everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

Personally i like Smith. I think he is a good goaltender. I think he will get back to form and i understand he is an important part of the dressing room as well.

The fact is he's got some of the worst numbers in the league. He was great last year but let's face it, he's lost his consistency. People are right to be worried, without big save Dave this team is fighting for a wildcard spot.

Enoch Root · 01-02-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Inferno

I think it's more than people are just tired of the constant complaining warranted or not rather than think he's been good this season. Everyone knows he's had a bad season but as someone who is unbiased to either goalie it gets tiring after a while hearing people say a goal he let in was bad but then Rittich lets in a similar goal and they say he had no chance.

A bad goal is a bad goal whether it's on Smith, Rittich, Price, Fleury, .etc. Rittich has played well enough where when he lets in a bad goal people shouldn't pile on him while Smith deserves it but they should atleast acknowledge it was bad. And if they don't think it was then they shouldn't think it was bad on Smith either no matter how bad they think he's been this season.

First of all, yes, the piling on has been over the top. And yes, every goalie let's in bad goals.

But there are bad goals - loses his angle, doesn't get set, just doesn't read the puck off the stick - and then there are BAD goals - 50 ft wrist shot goes right through the goalie. And it is the rate at which those really egregious ones occur that matters. And unfortunately, the rate at which Smith has been letting in the really egregious ones has been a problem.

And that is going to cause people to react to every soft goal.

The Fonz · 01-02-2019, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto29

So many haters here. Every season someone picks the player to be whipping boy and everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

Personally i like Smith. I think he is a good goaltender. I think he will get back to form and i understand he is an important part of the dressing room as well.

Since his return from injury last season on March 11th, Smith's numbers are:

13-14-1
3.05 GAA
.886 SV%

To be critical of those numbers, especially relative to Rittich's and the team's overall performance this season, does not make anyone a hater.

He's been awful since that injury.

TheIronMaiden · 01-02-2019, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Since his return from injury last season on March 11th, Smith's numbers are:

13-14-1
3.05 GAA
.886 SV%

To be critical of those numbers, especially relative to Rittich's and the team's overall performance this season, does not make anyone a hater.

He's been awful since that injury.

While this is true, the bottom line is that Rittich should not play many more than 50 games this regular season. Right now, Rittich has payed 23 games. There are 42 games left, we should not be surprised that Mike Smith is going to play at least 10 of those. Riding a young goalie like a rented mule is not the recipe for sustainable success. Smith is what he is, but the alternative to Smith playing a few now and then is not acceptable.

Robbob · 01-02-2019, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Since his return from injury last season on March 11th, Smith's numbers are:

13-14-1
3.05 GAA
.886 SV%

To be critical of those numbers, especially relative to Rittich's and the team's overall performance this season, does not make anyone a hater.

He's been awful since that injury.

Sure, but his numbers of late have been better. I think Darren Haynes tweet above that KFF posted sums it up pretty good.

Inferno · 01-02-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

examples please? Ritter's last bunch of games haven't been as dominant as early on, but I still don't remember the same level of stinkers fluttering past him like Smith. the worst I could say about any of them was "eh, maybe he could have had that" as opposed to "holy crap the puck just went through him like a ghost passing through a wall"

I'm not saying he's let in goals as bad as Smith has this year. I'm saying he's let in goals that were similar to goals that Smith let in that people said were bad. They weren't bad but were labeled bad when Smith let them in.

TheIronMaiden · 01-02-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Gillies has a GAA above four and a save percentage of .864 this year.

I don't see him getting a start unless we have two injured goalies.

This is true, but he also has the equivalent of a grocery bag blowing in the wind for a defence in front of him.