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Old 01-02-2019, 12:55 AM   #61
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If Tre is going to upgrade I feel like adding a LHed depth dman should be 2/3 on the priority list.

1. Top 6 forward (preferably a RHed winger or a C)
2. A goalie
3. LHed dman
4. RHed dman (if Stone is out for the season)

When fully healthy the Flames have 8 defenceman that I feel comfortable playing a regular shift. I know half of them are extremely young and inexperienced for the most part but playoff experience will only make them better.

I understand depth is important so if they do add a dman the price needs to be low.

We have only had 11 forwards consistently in the lineup and only 8 consistently in the top 9.

I know Frolik had a good game the other night but I'd much rather he be a bit further down the lineup.

Also to me Dube spending a bit more time in the AHL will do him good.

Once the playoffs start scoring at the top of the lineup will be harder to come by. We are going to need our depth guys to step up. Even if guys like Neal, Bennett and Jankowski have more to give adding 1 more guy into the mix will go a long way towards solidifying our roster and strengthening our lines 2-4.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:25 AM   #62
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This isn't the first time we've heard the Flames having interest in a depth LHD. Friedman also spoke about it prior to the start of the season did he not? (and we questioned it then too)

Seems like something they have been after for sometime.

Like most others I hope a depth winger with size, and goaltending are addressed if at all possible. Though I'm cautious to add too much or disrupt the chemistry of the room.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:42 AM   #63
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We were scouting St Louis...

Jay Bouwmeester (w/ salary retained) is in his final year of his contract...

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Old 01-02-2019, 08:29 AM   #64
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I don't want to trade Foo. I'd like to see him in the league at some point this year.
Foo isn't going to be anything more than a marginal NHL player if at all. 24 years old and very meh numbers in the AHL. I would easily put in him as a throwaway in a deal.
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Foo isn't going to be anything more than a marginal NHL player if at all. 24 years old and very meh numbers in the AHL. I would easily put in him as a throwaway in a deal.
Never understood the hype. Not a huge fan of what I see.

He’ll be an okay player. But I don’t see him as the difference maker some seem to suggest.
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I like Foo, but if the past few years are any indication it takes him 4 months to get into a season.
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:59 AM   #67
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Friedman saying the Flames are worried that Valimaki won't return to full form in his 31 thoughts.

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3. Alright, let’s move on. Calgary GM Brad Treliving said defenceman Juuso Valimaki is out until at least late January with a high-ankle sprain. The 20-year-old is a tremendous talent with an excellent future, but the Flames wonder what this means for a return to full speed in 2018-19. They are looking at left-handed options for the blue line.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:14 AM   #68
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I could see Treliving coveting Edmunson from the Blues.
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Marc Methot could be an interesting piece.

Struggled with injury the last couple years but if Dallas falls out of the playoff race he'd be the right type of dman.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:32 AM   #70
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I think Valimaki is good enough to overcome the injury, but its an unfortunate double whammy. First, high ankle sprains are notorious for being tough to get back to 100%.

Remember when Rene Bourque was the heir apparent to Iginla? (Shudder) He was a big part of the Keenan team with all of the injuries. He suffered a really bad high ankle sprain that season, he was never the same when he came back. I'm sure there were other factors in his downward trajectory as well.

Second, its also tough in a rookies development to miss so much time with an injury like this. They need to play, and learn. To come back when everything is just a little bit tighter, a little bit faster will be really difficult for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he is sent down to regain confidence and maybe joins the black aces for the playoffs.

They are not super high profile injuries, but Stone and Valimaki are pretty big hits to the depth of the D core.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:38 AM   #71
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Valimaki... there's zero reason to rush him back. Easy to send him to the farm for as long as need be for him to get back up to speed. Kylington is just fine. And we have a plug or two behind him to fill holes for a game or two.

I do catch myself in day dreams of the Flames grabbing a Swedish grump like Kronwall. The experience alone would be huge. On top of that, I think Rasmus is a RH version of Kronwall in the making. Offense, grumpy and mean when he wants to be.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:23 AM   #72
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Friedman saying the Flames are worried that Valimaki won't return to full form in his 31 thoughts.
Once again, apparently there is a surgery available (it seems to Alabama Football players) that result in some impressive recovery for high ankle sprains.

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Tua Tagovailoa will lead the Crimson Tide Saturday night a mere 28 days after suffering a high-ankle sprain in the SEC Championship on December 1. Mr. Tagovailoa immediately had surgery, undergoing ankle arthroscopy as well as an innovative procedure called “tightrope,” which has been used to accelerate recovery from high-ankle sprain injuries.

While the actual severity of his injury is not known, it is believed to be of a more higher-grade sprain, which typically requires at least six to eight weeks to return, and sometimes several months.

The tightrope procedure had Mr. Tagovailoa practicing in just two weeks. And he said this week he is between 80-85 percent heading into the game, and improving very quickly in the post-operative setting.

What is tightrope?

When Tommy John surgery was first performed in 1974, this reconstruction procedure allowed baseball pitchers to salvage careers and return from a devastating elbow ligamentous injury. This landmark procedure has gained immense popularity in recent years, and is well-known to both orthopedic surgeons and sports enthusiasts with a tendon graft functionally replacing the torn and non-healing ligament.

Tightrope is gaining similar traction within the orthopedics and sports medicine community and seems to be on a similar trajectory, although the procedures have some basic differences besides location of injured structures.

A high-ankle sprain denotes injury to the ligamentous complex bridging the two leg bones, tibia and fibula specifically where they articulate at the ankle joint. The syndesmotic ligaments between the two bones are torn, and in the most severe cases there is increased separation or diastasis between the two bones. In this instance, surgeons anatomically reduce the gap, drill across the two bones and place heavy non-absorbable suture construct with metallic buttons at either end (the “tightrope”) to hold the bones close together. This offers long-term protection and stability, and allows the ligamentous complex to heal in optimal position.

The implanted device actually stabilizes the ankle and serves as a replacement ligament while the native syndesmotic ligaments heal. Although surgeons have been utilizing tightrope for nearly a decade, Mr. Tagovailoa’s injury and surgical treatment has brought it into the national spotlight.
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Detroit post game show on Fox tonight also alluding to Kronwall as a possible fit for the Flames. Make it so!!!!
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Detroit post game show on Fox tonight also alluding to Kronwall as a possible fit for the Flames. Make it so!!!!
He has the old Kipper NMC


Aka I don’t need the money and I don’t want to play for a different team
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:18 PM   #75
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I could see Treliving coveting Edmunson from the Blues.
Honestly exactly what I was thinking. Young guy who might have a bit of upside, but shouldn’t be expensive to acquire, plays a defensive game, and has a physical edge that we’re short on.
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:21 PM   #76
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He has the old Kipper NMC


Aka I don’t need the money and I don’t want to play for a different team
Nik Kronwall has a 10 team trade list this season per capfriendly

Maybe his brother Stefan will tell him good things about the Flames
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:57 PM   #77
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Jordie Benn might be a fit
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We were scouting St Louis...

Jay Bouwmeester (w/ salary retained) is in his final year of his contract...

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There’s a GIF of Michael Scott from The Office repeatedly shouting ‘No’...assume I’ve had the energy to search, save and post that GIF in response to your proposal!
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:59 PM   #79
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Bourque's high ankle sprain wasn't the reason he crapped out. His problem was a little higher on the body.

Lots of players have had high ankle sprains, and it's a bad injury as far as season interruption, but they usually come back fine for their career.
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Brett Kulak or Jay Bouwmeester returns . . . . . haha
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