Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[FlamesAddiction]

Connor McDavid GP 35, G = 19, A = 33, Points = 52 ($12.5 million Cap Hit)


Johnny Gaudreau GP 38, G = 19, A = 32, Points = 51 ( $6.75 million Cap Hit)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Dan02

Man that loss to the oilers really stings, instead of being up a even 10 points we could be up 14.

No, it doesn't. I barely remember that that game even happened, and the team up North is just as irrelevant as ever.

[direwolf]

Haha! Oilers lose again.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

It's almost 2019, so let's take a look at some numbers.

Tobias Rieder - 0 goals this season
Milan Lucic - 1 goal this season
Ryan Spooner - 2 goals as an Oiler
Valentin Zykov - 0 goals as an Oiler
Ty Rattie - 2 goals this season

Yeesh.

Hatty Rattie doesn't even have a hat trick worth of goals? Well that's not what the pre-season was showing!

[Reggie Dunlop]

Ha ha stupid Oilers!

[Conroy4Mayor]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Connor McDavid GP 35, G = 19, A = 33, Points = 52 ($12.5 million Cap Hit)


Johnny Gaudreau GP 38, G = 19, A = 32, Points = 51 ( $6.75 million Cap Hit)

The stat you should be comparing is ice time. I'm pretty sure Johnny is producing his points with less time.

That being said, it isn't that McDavid is overpaid; it's that Johnny is vastly underpaid. Best value in the league probably. Hilariously, Rittich would be his closest competitor in that regard.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor

The stat you should be comparing is ice time. I'm pretty sure Johnny is producing his points with less time.

That being said, it isn't that McDavid is overpaid; it's that Johnny is vastly underpaid. Best value in the league probably. Hilariously, Rittich would be his closest competitor in that regard.

Kucherov has a $4.76 million hit, but he is going to be getting some sweet crinkle after his current contract expires in July.

It's scary to think that Kucherov was on the Flames short list to draft too. IIRC, the Flames were playing poker waiting to draft Kucherov and Gaudreau and once he was taken, they took Gaudreau the next time they were up so they wouldn't miss out on him.

[McG]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

He actually said they played 55 minutes of good hockey tonight. I guess I was watching a different game.

I thought that he said that he watched 55 minutes of good hockey but didn’t mention which team!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Dan02

Man that loss to the oilers really stings, instead of being up a even 10 points we could be up 14.

The Oilers are closer to LA (8 pts) for dead last in the league than they are to the Flames (10 pts)

[Textcritic]

Right on cue: Oilers fans complaining on the call-in show about how hard done-by poor Collie McDoggie is for not drawing enough penalty calls.

[Drak]

Remember when the Oilers did their recent coaching change, went trap mode, won a few games, then went off the rails talking about playoffs and Chia being a genius after all?

[Deelow]

Anyone hear Fleury on the CHED post game show. Made several “here’s what’s happening in Calgary...” references

[Bunk]

Mike Johnson breaking down the Oilers no goodness on TSN is glorious.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Oilers are closer to LA (8 pts) for dead last in the league than they are to the Flames (10 pts)

Update:

LA won so the Oil are 6 pts out of the basement

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Dan02

Man that loss to the oilers really stings, instead of being up a even 10 points we could be up 14.

I hear you. The thing that burns me is the 10 points Gulutzan gifted them that season they made the playoffs.

Calgary pretty literally handed them a playoff spot against a burnt out Sharks team.

[Beninho]

Lol this was supposed to be an easy part of their schedule but they’ve lost to the Canucks twice in a week and a half. Amazing!

[CaptainCrunch]

So just for fun, because it is so much fun. Lets look at the future of the Oilers.





Right now in terms of their lineup they have four forwards that are worth being called useful


McDavid, RNH, Draisaitl, Chiasson (Even though that shooting percentage is just an anomaly)


On the blueline they are missing Sekera (Even though he's been pretty much missing for two years) Russell, Klefbom. Russell is a bottom pairing guy who can't win a board battle and is terrible positionally. Nurse has been horrifyingly bad this year, he's just a dumb defenseman.


Prospect wise they really don't have much to be excited about, Bouchard being probably the best prospect that they have. hasn't really lit it up in the AHL and might never arrive. Poolparty looks entirely lost.


Salary Cap wise they're in huge trouble.


They have 16 players under contract for next year and if the Cap goes to 81 million then they have 14 million to address the other 4. doesn't sound bad, except they need at least 2 goalies and if they want Bob that's 8 to 10 million.



They will have


Lucic McDavid Draisaitl
Spooner RNH Kassian
Cagigula, Brodziak, JP (RFA, could go home)
Zykov, Khairi, Rattie (RFA)



Klefbom Larsson
Nurse, Benning
Sekeras Russell
Jones


Goalies Both UFA's.


Chances are that they're going to need a new coach again. If they don't make the playoffs then they're going to need a new GM that's going to want to build the team his way.


Now hear me out fellas. I think that the Oilers have to make a choice in the offseason. they're not going to be able to move Lucic, or a lot of the other crap.


They need to decide on whether to move Draisaitl or put feelers out on McDavid.


Draisaitl is not an elite center, he doesn't drive a line, he's a great winger for McDavid, but he's really expensive for a complimentary piece and teams will probably give a lot of value for him.


However


The name of the modern NHL is depth through your lineup. At least two lines that can score, a deep blueline that can move the puck, and a 3rd and 4th line that won't hurt you.


McDavid would instantly be able to right that ship with the right GM dangling him.



Its no secret that right now the Oilers are looking at a failed rebuild, they're heading towards another one. With years of draft failures in all rounds, the Oilers don't have a prospect pool that can help them out with the cap, and they don't have enough NHL players to be excited about.


But trading a McDavid allows you to fix a lot of mistakes. The kings ransom that the Oilers would receive in prospects and high picks could instantly give the Oilers the building blocks that they need to restart the franchise.


As well, having a generational player is nice, but teams are so deep now that it doesn't tip the scales, especially at 12 or 13 million dollars in cap space.


McDavid is a dynamic scorer, he's a decent setup guy, but nobody can argue that he's a terrific all around player. Frankly other teams are building two man units that are more production for a lot less the Oilers pay for their premiere one two punch in McDavid and Draisaitl.


Draisaitl will get you a return that can help. a first, a good prospect and a decent young roster player.



Nurse won't get you a better defenseman or a top 6 winger.



But with McDavid you can name your price and instantly put some depth in your roster and boost your organizational depth.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So just for fun, because it is so much fun. Lets look at the future of the Oilers.





Right now in terms of their lineup they have four forwards that are worth being called useful


McDavid, RNH, Draisaitl, Chiasson (Even though that shooting percentage is just an anomaly)


On the blueline they are missing Sekera (Even though he's been pretty much missing for two years) Russell, Klefbom. Russell is a bottom pairing guy who can't win a board battle and is terrible positionally. Nurse has been horrifyingly bad this year, he's just a dumb defenseman.


Prospect wise they really don't have much to be excited about, Bouchard being probably the best prospect that they have. hasn't really lit it up in the AHL and might never arrive. Poolparty looks entirely lost.


Salary Cap wise they're in huge trouble.


They have 16 players under contract for next year and if the Cap goes to 81 million then they have 14 million to address the other 4. doesn't sound bad, except they need at least 2 goalies and if they want Bob that's 8 to 10 million.



They will have


Lucic McDavid Draisaitl
Spooner RNH Kassian
Cagigula, Brodziak, JP (RFA, could go home)
Zykov, Khairi, Rattie (RFA)



Klefbom Larsson
Nurse, Benning
Sekeras Russell
Jones


Goalies Both UFA's.


Chances are that they're going to need a new coach again. If they don't make the playoffs then they're going to need a new GM that's going to want to build the team his way.


Now hear me out fellas. I think that the Oilers have to make a choice in the offseason. they're not going to be able to move Lucic, or a lot of the other crap.


They need to decide on whether to move Draisaitl or put feelers out on McDavid.


Draisaitl is not an elite center, he doesn't drive a line, he's a great winger for McDavid, but he's really expensive for a complimentary piece and teams will probably give a lot of value for him.


However


The name of the modern NHL is depth through your lineup. At least two lines that can score, a deep blueline that can move the puck, and a 3rd and 4th line that won't hurt you.


McDavid would instantly be able to right that ship with the right GM dangling him.



Its no secret that right now the Oilers are looking at a failed rebuild, they're heading towards another one. With years of draft failures in all rounds, the Oilers don't have a prospect pool that can help them out with the cap, and they don't have enough NHL players to be excited about.


But trading a McDavid allows you to fix a lot of mistakes. The kings ransom that the Oilers would receive in prospects and high picks could instantly give the Oilers the building blocks that they need to restart the franchise.


As well, having a generational player is nice, but teams are so deep now that it doesn't tip the scales, especially at 12 or 13 million dollars in cap space.


McDavid is a dynamic scorer, he's a decent setup guy, but nobody can argue that he's a terrific all around player. Frankly other teams are building two man units that are more production for a lot less the Oilers pay for their premiere one two punch in McDavid and Draisaitl.


Draisaitl will get you a return that can help. a first, a good prospect and a decent young roster player.



Nurse won't get you a better defenseman or a top 6 winger.



But with McDavid you can name your price and instantly put some depth in your roster and boost your organizational depth.

God bless the architects Lowe and Chia!!! Gifts that keep on giving!

[crapshoot]

Koskinen didn't stay at Vezina-level of play forever? Well color everybody surprised!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor

The stat you should be comparing is ice time. I'm pretty sure Johnny is producing his points with less time.

That being said, it isn't that McDavid is overpaid; it's that Johnny is vastly underpaid. Best value in the league probably. Hilariously, Rittich would be his closest competitor in that regard.

McDavid got 27:46 minutes against Vancouver while Johnny logged a whopping 16:36.

Johnny: 3 Goals, 0 Assists and +3
McDavid: 0 Goals, 2 Assists and -2

Not only does he get paid nearly twice as much, he plays nearly twice as much and his production and play do not reflect a benefit.