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Old 11-17-2018, 01:22 PM   #301
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Fleury is arguably having a tougher start than Smith.

Out of 40 goalies with 300 + minutes

Low Danger Chances
Smith 34th
Fleury 33rd

Mid Danger Chances
Smith 39th
Fleury 35th

High Danger Chances
Smith 28th
Fleury 36th

Very arguable. Fleury has a better record, GAA and sv%.

8-8-1 on a Vegas team that is struggling to replicate a Cinderella year. 2.60, .902

Smith is 5-7-1, 3.48, .876

And we know you have seen how Smith is letting the goals in.

It’s beyond numbers, it is how they go in and the game situation.

As for numbers, if Smith wants to hit Fleury’s sv%, he will need to pitch 3 shutouts averaging 30 saves each. 5 shutouts would put him near average.

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Agreed ... but starting a 7M contract next year for 3 years ... yikes if you're a vegas fan.
I would drive Smith to the airport
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I would drive Smith to the airport
The flight would probably go through his 5-hole...
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The biggest risk I could see the Flames considering would be Cory Schneider but he would have to come cheap and maybe a little retention. Something like Smith and Frolik for Schneider at $1M retained. Maybe the Flames kick in Gillies tomfive the Devils a golaie with potential for the future?

Could blow up in the Flames face easily though.
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Old 11-17-2018, 02:52 PM   #305
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Very arguable. Fleury has a better record, GAA and sv%.

8-8-1 on a Vegas team that is struggling to replicate a Cinderella year. 2.60, .902

Smith is 5-7-1, 3.48, .876

And we know you have seen how Smith is letting the goals in.

It’s beyond numbers, it is how they go in and the game situation.

As for numbers, if Smith wants to hit Fleury’s sv%, he will need to pitch 3 shutouts averaging 30 saves each. 5 shutouts would put him near average.

Agreed. Not to mention we could have had MAF for 2 seasons already. 2017 he was the big reason Pittsburgh made it to the Stanley Cup finals. Without him and Murray I sure that Pittsburgh don't make it. Last year we know he took Vegas to the Stanley Cup. Who knows we could all be wearing Cup champs hats right now

As far as the $7 million and 3 years contract I'd rather have that then 5 year James The real deal contract.
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Agreed. Not to mention we could have had MAF for 2 seasons already.
You keep glossing over the fact that we almost certainly would not have Matthew Tkachuk in this scenario.
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Where are they now? Goalies post-Kipper edition

Elliott - middling stats in Philly
Hiller - Swiss league
Chad Johnson - .927 for the Blues somehow in 6GP
Ortio - SEL/KHL
Ramo - KHL
Berra - Swiss league
Joey MacDonald - DEL
Leland Irving - Austria Hockey League
Henrik Karlsson - KHL

Get this team a MF goalie already! Philly west.

I bet these guys are all thankful to get away from the shackles of Jordan Sigalet.
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I bet these guys are all thankful to get away from the shackles of Jordan Sigalet.


Don’t get me wrong I can definitely see why people are hard on Sigalet, however you can’t just gloss over the fact that he’s also coaching Rittich who looks awesome.
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Agreed. Not to mention we could have had MAF for 2 seasons already. 2017 he was the big reason Pittsburgh made it to the Stanley Cup finals. Without him and Murray I sure that Pittsburgh don't make it. Last year we know he took Vegas to the Stanley Cup. Who knows we could all be wearing Cup champs hats right now

As far as the $7 million and 3 years contract I'd rather have that then 5 year James The real deal contract.
But there were like 10 responses after your first one explaining that it would have cost Matthew Tkachuk. You would make that switch if you could go back in time?
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:13 PM   #310
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Don’t get me wrong I can definitely see why people are hard on Sigalet, however you can’t just gloss over the fact that he’s also coaching Rittich who looks awesome.
I agree, I was being sarcastic.
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I bet these guys are all thankful to get away from the shackles of Jordan Sigalet.
Right. I don’t get your point. Counter argument: They get worse under Sigalet and most don’t get a chance to redeem themselves. Is he a career killer? Only for everyone but Rittich. He must be okay.

I’m sure they preferred the NHL paycheque that coincided with the shackles of Sigalet. Probably very disappointed with how he helped advance their careers.
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Needs to be bumped. He’s done.
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Mike Smith is no ####ing good, get him off this team. There’s nothing salvageable, worst goalie in the NHL by a ####ing landslide
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Sweet. A highlight reel pack of James Neal's shots on goal. How about you put one in the ####ing net?

Edit: wrong thread.

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Excellent bump.
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Flames could probably be 5 points better in the standings right now if it weren'tfor Smith.
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This is at least the 4th game now (without a doubt) that Smith has cost the Flames, that is 8 points!

I thought coach was surely gonna pull him after the 3rd goal tonight.

That's a lot of steam taken out of the boys this season already, this needs to end.

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I hate Mike Smith. Why didn't we pick up Chad Johnson on waivers?
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Sweet. A highlight reel pack of James Neal's shots on goal. How about you put one in the ####ing net?

Edit: wrong thread.
If Neal was shooting against Mike Smith he’d have a hat trick today.
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I genuinely feel that the Flames are better off finding a backup goalie through the wavier wire or a trade, rather than letting Smith in a backup role. You can't guarantee one weak goal every time you're in net; even as a backup.
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