[Signing] Flames sign James Neal (5 years, 5.75 AAV)

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

That may be true this year, I doubt they would have spent the extra 2.75 million on another player this year. But next year when we are looking for a goalie we may wish we had the 2.75 million next year and the 7.25 million the two years after when we try to re-sign Hamonic and Brodie and try to get a starting goalie as well.

Okay. So report back to us then. Feel free to quote this page and rub it in our faces. But soooooo many other things will happen between now and 4 years from now. It’s not worth worrying about unless it’s part of your job description.

I, on the other hand, am pumped that the team is leading the division and Neal hasn’t even kicked into gear yet. They’ve been lucky with injuries up front, but have depth to shuffle around if needed. Currently, the team is clicking, and glimpses of Neal’s offensive abilities have me excited for the long season ahead.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

It gives the Flames cap space to add significant assets at the deadline for a genuine cup run

Like a James Neal type?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

We all laugh at the Oilers signing of Lucic. Neal is worse

Asserted without evidence. Lucic is making more money, signed for a longer term, playing worse, scoring less, and he has done all that while spending significant time on the top two lines. Neal's biggest problem is that Lindholm and Bennett pushed him out of the top six and he has been trying to manufacture goals off the playmaking of Derek Ryan, who has been having his own issues this year.

No team should have a 5.75 million player playing on the third line and not scoring, unless they have added said player at the deadline and are only paying a portion of his salary as a rental.

Right, because no team ever had a $5.75 million player who went through a slump.

Almost every Stanley cup winner has added players at the deadline, now your just be silly

How many times has a player added at the deadline been a difference-maker in the playoffs? Go ahead, if they're so common you should be able to name dozens of them.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Like a James Neal type?

I’d take a James Neal type as a 3 month depth rental for a playoff run...not a 5.75 million over 5 years anchor around the teams neck.

This wouldn’t affect chuckys new contract (or cause associated lcollateral damage) and would only cost around 2 million in cap space, allowing the Flames to also add a rental d-man to cover/replace someone on the 3rd defensive pairing.

As it stands now, we can’t because we are a cap team.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

I’d take a James Neal type as a 3 month depth rental for a playoff run...not a 5.75 million over 5 years anchor around the teams neck.

So you think James Neal is a difference maker in the playoffs?

That sounds like a guy who could give us a genuine cup run.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

8mm a year is not unrealistic.

Let's have a look at the numbers, it appears some salary is going to have to be allocated towards goaltending...

Gaudreau 6,75 Monahan 6,375 Lindholm 4,85
Tkachuk 8,0 Backlund 5,35 Neal 5,75
Bennett 3,5 Ryan 3,125 Frolík 4,3
Dubé ,778 Jankowski 1,675 Czarnik 1,25

Giordano 6,75 Brodie 4,65
Hanifin 4,95 Hamonic 3,857
Välimäki ,894 Andersson ,755
Kylington ,730 Stone 3,5

Goalie 1
Goalie 2

Salary Cap $83,000,000
Cap Hit $79,291,708
Buyouts $1,500,000
Bonuses $747,500
Cap Space $3,708,292

[Shazam]

If Neal actually got his lazy arse moving the Flames could've gotten 10 last night. What a bum.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Lucic has been bad for an extended period
Neal has been bad for 30 games after years of consistency
Comparing the two is premature and silly

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

So you think James Neal is a difference maker in the playoffs?

You add depth at the deadline as potentially there are 28 games to play once the regular season ends. If you have cap space at deadline day, you’d certainly sign Neal...put him in the press box and use him as insurance in case a superior 4th line player likes Dube goes down injured

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Let's have a look at the numbers, it appears some salary is going to have to be allocated towards goaltending...

Gaudreau 6,75 Monahan 6,375 Lindholm 4,85
Tkachuk 8,0 Backlund 5,35 Neal 5,75
Bennett 3,5 Ryan 3,125 Frolík 4,3
Dubé ,778 Jankowski 1,675 Czarnik 1,25

Giordano 6,75 Brodie 4,65
Hanifin 4,95 Hamonic 3,857
Välimäki ,894 Andersson ,755
Kylington ,730 Stone 3,5

Goalie 1
Goalie 2

Salary Cap $83,000,000
Cap Hit $79,291,708
Buyouts $1,500,000
Bonuses $747,500
Cap Space $3,708,292

So we’re bringing in back Elliot in net for 2.5 and a cheap back-up

[FlamesAddiction]

I need a full season to judge the signing. I was 100% for it at the time as going by stats and experience, Neal was one of the best UFA RWs available and something we needed.

Neal has always been a streaky player and has been playing bottom 6 ice time almost all season. If or when injuries hit and he needs to move up, there will be a huge opportunity. Also, if there is a post season opportunity, that is where some players really show their worth. He has a lot of playoff experience which will hopefully come in handy.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

So, why are we all here again? To only say positive things? Have the Flanes hired a bunch of Russian operatives to only say nice things about the team on message boards similar to Trump 2016?



Everything is awesome....is that better?

Everything IS Awesome.


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[djsFlames]

Hamonic took an entire year to settle in and show us the player we thought we were getting.

So I'm willing to give the rest of the season for Neal to show he can be a player outside of the top line.

Moaning about it 30 games in accomplishes really little, as there isn't a trade or move of any kind coming with that price tag, and the team is playing well anyway so why nit pick when we can enjoy the ride (for once).

[chummer]

Neal has had a slow start but he has the pedigree to suggest he'll recover.

To give up on a guy 7% into the life of his contract is ridiculous.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

As it stands now, we can’t because we are a cap team.

The Flames have roughly four million dollars in deadline cap space.

[bax]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

I’d take a James Neal type as a 3 month depth rental for a playoff run...not a 5.75 million over 5 years anchor around the teams neck.



This wouldn’t affect chuckys new contract (or cause associated lcollateral damage) and would only cost around 2 million in cap space, allowing the Flames to also add a rental d-man to cover/replace someone on the 3rd defensive pairing.



As it stands now, we can’t because we are a cap team.

You’re not listening.

We can trade Stone. There is nothing to panic about right now.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by bax

We can trade Stone. There is nothing to panic about right now.

Stone or Frolik, Brodie or Hamonic. One of each pair should be moved out this summer.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by bax

You’re not listening.

We can trade Stone. There is nothing to panic about right now.

Um, I don’t see Stone being traded, given the situation

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Let's have a look at the numbers, it appears some salary is going to have to be allocated towards goaltending...

Gaudreau 6,75 Monahan 6,375 Lindholm 4,85
Tkachuk 8,0 Backlund 5,35 Neal 5,75
Bennett 3,5 Ryan 3,125 Frolík 4,3
Dubé ,778 Jankowski 1,675 Czarnik 1,25

Giordano 6,75 Brodie 4,65
Hanifin 4,95 Hamonic 3,857
Välimäki ,894 Andersson ,755
Kylington ,730 Stone 3,5

Goalie 1
Goalie 2

Salary Cap $83,000,000
Cap Hit $79,291,708
Buyouts $1,500,000
Bonuses $747,500
Cap Space $3,708,292

No way Bennett gets 3.5 unless he really changes things offensively. The flames should be able to dump stone or definitely frolik in the offseason too

[bax]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

I’d take a James Neal type as a 3 month depth rental for a playoff run...not a 5.75 million over 5 years anchor around the teams neck.



This wouldn’t affect chuckys new contract (or cause associated lcollateral damage) and would only cost around 2 million in cap space, allowing the Flames to also add a rental d-man to cover/replace someone on the 3rd defensive pairing.



As it stands now, we can’t because we are a cap team.

You’re not listening.

We can trade Stone. There is nothing to panic about right now.