12-01-2018, 04:52 PM
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#101
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
LOL at Sportsnet. They showed all the contracts that Nylander "leapfrogged" (to say it's a win for the NHLPA). They list Gaudreau, Pasternak, etc. Guess who they left off the list?
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Actually, trying to argue it's a win for the NHLPA is patently stupid in any case. Every extra dollar Nylander makes is a dollar someone else won't.
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12-01-2018, 04:55 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Since draisatl was brought up as a comparison, shouldn't you determine what the extra 2 ufa years would have added to the deal?
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12-01-2018, 04:57 PM
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#103
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In the Sin Bin
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Yeah, sorry Gordon. You're going to struggle to explain that contract in any context.
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12-01-2018, 05:00 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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Burke ripping the contract, love it.
He would have let him sit out, he doesn't feel the Leafs are a Stanley Cup threat.
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12-01-2018, 05:05 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Who in the East looks like they can take the Leafs? Tampa? Washington?
I don't know, I know it's super easy to hate on the Leafs but they already had a dynamic potent offense that just added yet another dynamic offensive player. They're IMO a legit threat despite the D corps.
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12-01-2018, 05:10 PM
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#106
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Who in the East looks like they can take the Leafs? Tampa? Washington?
I don't know, I know it's super easy to hate on the Leafs but they already had a dynamic potent offense that just added yet another dynamic offensive player. They're IMO a legit threat despite the D corps.
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I'm hoping it is Buffalo. That would be great comedy.
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12-01-2018, 05:18 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Doing the math on this...
Nylander receives $17.1M between now and July 1st.
Then he costs (in actual dollars) $24.7M over 5 seasons (though the cap hit will still be $6.96M)
For some teams - many teams - that is an attractive situation. You have to tip your hat to Dubas for that fact.
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"Puts on tinfoil hat".....
Any chance they planned it out this way? for him to wait until the last minute and make the contract it is to work for everyone?
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12-01-2018, 05:21 PM
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#108
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie
Looking at that contract I can see the Leafs trading Nylander after July 1 next year. Pay him to make a run this year, pay his bonus, get a haul in a trade, re-sign Kapanen to go with Marner and Matthews.
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Kypreos was suggesting the same thing and that the 6.97 Cap hit was nice and tradeable.
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12-01-2018, 05:23 PM
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#109
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
Kypreos was suggesting the same thing and that the 6.97 Cap hit was nice and tradeable.
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I'd say it depends on how this season plays out. If he goes full Pasternak you got to keep him and move other pieces.
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12-01-2018, 05:26 PM
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#110
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Burke says Nylander is 6-7th best on that team and shouldn't be paid that much.
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I'm assuming he means 6-7 best player on the team regardless of position?
Matthews
Marner
Tavares
Rielly
Andersen
Nylander
Makes sense..
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12-01-2018, 05:27 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chummer
Burke ripping the contract, love it.
He would have let him sit out, he doesn't feel the Leafs are a Stanley Cup threat.
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I really liked the teeth in that comment too. He was sticking it to the recently pompous Friedman. The Leafs are top heavy and d shallow, and everyone knows it. They're still contenders but it was good to see Burke set him in his place as these "insiders" are now just butt-kissers to get insider scoops from their team management sources.
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12-01-2018, 05:33 PM
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#112
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
"Puts on tinfoil hat".....
Any chance they planned it out this way? for him to wait until the last minute and make the contract it is to work for everyone?
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The concept has been discussed for the last few weeks on Toronto radio. However, if they had this planned out he would have signed this morning I think. This is just the standard Lewis Grossman strategy. The last offer before the deadline will be the best. For Gaudreau it was a player deadline of right before the season starts. For Nylander it was a player imposed deadline of not wanting to miss the season and make sure he is covered if he gets traded.
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12-01-2018, 05:34 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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I really don't feel he's earned this contract, and am surprised that the Leafs caved. Oh well. Enjoy cap hell.
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12-01-2018, 05:38 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
Nylander was worth 7-8m imo
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No, he is worth $12M. Marner worth another $12M and Mathews worth $15M, and Leafs will be in cap hell. 
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12-01-2018, 05:52 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chummer
Burke ripping the contract, love it.
He would have let him sit out, he doesn't feel the Leafs are a Stanley Cup threat.
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Not sure Burke knows anything about building a championship team, he is more of an inheritor of championship teams. A bad hockey move is giving Ron Wilson a contract extension, signing Nylander is not a bad hockey move.
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12-01-2018, 06:54 PM
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#116
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Well done Dubas.
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12-01-2018, 07:02 PM
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#117
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Good! Now get me some points for my hockey pool!
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12-01-2018, 07:25 PM
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#118
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First Line Centre
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Yeah, I know it's only Eklund but,
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I heard the Leafs turned down Muzzin and Toffoli from the Kings...wasn't enough...gotta be Kyle Clague
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12-01-2018, 07:31 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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6.97 cap is less than a lot of posters suggested Nylander would get.
Nylander simply isn't worth 8+ like some suggested.
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Last edited by CalgaryFan1988; 12-01-2018 at 07:37 PM.
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12-01-2018, 07:42 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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First off, there's a huge difference between 6 years and 8 years with 2 additional UFA years tacked on.
Second off, 41.77M in 5.70 years is 7.3M...
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