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				Let’s see how they play over the next few games shall we before we get too comfortably into “I told you so” mode. 
 
Always love a Flames win but let’s not pretend we haven’t seen this rodeo for the last 20 years shall we?  
 
If they consistently play like they care for 10-20 games I’ll very happily change my tune that the players don’t really care enough. To be successful we need consistent efforts like this night in and night out not once every few games and then get all cocky and lazy if things go well for awhile. 
			
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I’m confused.....only the glass half full crowd is subject to appropriate sample size before they can say I told you so, but the glass half empty crowd is allowed to over react and drive a holistic narrative based on single game outcomes?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:34 PM
			
			
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			Living in Toronto and having to listen to this one on the radio for the first time in forever. Good god is Joe Bowen insufferable. Not even attempting to call the game down the middle, really makes you appreciate the ability Maher used to have of being largely impartial to the flames, or appearing that way anyway. 
Listening to Bowen freak out after the Leafs “tied it” to the quiet shame after finding out it was sitting on the back of the net was worth the suffering, though!   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:35 PM
			
			
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				Clearly that's what they did which is BS as there's nothing in the rule book (that I know of anyway) that says if a team celebrates a non-goal on a puck that never enters the net the whistle shall be blown.  I know they will say they blew the whistle because the puck was on the net but I don't think they even knew where it was and when a Flame picked it out and started skating down the ice they blew the whistle because the Leafs weren't paying attention. 
			
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I suspect that is exactly what they would say.  But I’d love to know exactly when the whistle was blown.  If it’s blown when the puck is in the netting or the ref loses sight of it, OK.  A little premature but I can live with it.  But seems like it was blown well after that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:35 PM
			
			
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I love it.  The Flames should not stand for this level of incompetence and the officials should be called out for this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:36 PM
			
			
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			Serious question here- and I should know this, but do the refs normally blow the whistle if the puck is sitting on the back of the net?  Can’t remember.  I know they blow it when on top of net.  Though then it should have been blown dead right away- not when we were about to score an empty netter.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:36 PM
			
			
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				I suspect that is exactly what they would say.  But I’d love to know exactly when the whistle was blown.  If it’s blown when the puck is in the netting or the ref loses sight of it, OK.  A little premature but I can live with it.  But seems like it was blown well after that. 
			
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It was blown well after.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:36 PM
			
			
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			Is there a player in the league that looks happier than lindholm when he scores? 
 
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			10-29-2018, 09:37 PM
			
			
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				Serious question here- and I should know this, but do the refs normally blow the whistle if the puck is sitting on the back of the net?  Can’t remember.  I know they blow it when on top of net.  Though then it should have been blown dead right away- not when we were about to score an empty netter. 
			
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If the puck is "frozen". Flames were a little late to get there but they clearly popped it off without any issue, so usually that's a live play.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:38 PM
			
			
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				I’m confused.....only the glass half full crowd is subject to appropriate sample size before they can say I told you so, but the glass half empty crowd is allowed to over react and drive a holistic narrative based on single game outcomes? 
			
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You’re missing the 25 years of misery which some are sitting on.  Sometimes it’s hard not to think you’ve seen this movie before.
 
Let’s enjoy the win.  Best first period Flames have played this year that I can think of.  Leafs may have had 8 high danger chances but a whole bunch came after it was 2 to zero.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Just got back! Praise to the group of Flames fans in section 318! Felt like a home game!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:39 PM
			
			
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				Hamonic was quietly awesome tonight. If he plays like that the rest of the year it will be massive for the team. Nice partner to have out there with Hanifin. 
			
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I know some  people don’t like advanced stats but they have been really good together in the 4 games they’ve played together. 
 
Minutes Played: 57  
Corsi For: 64% (79 For, 45 Against) 
Shots For: 67% (40 For, 20 Against) 
High Danger Scoring Chances: 79% (22 For, 6 Against)  
Offensive Zone Start: 51.4%
 
A small sample size but Those are unreal numbers and it’s not like they are getting force fed offensive zone starts or playing exclusively with the Backlund line (20 minutes with Backlund so about a third of total ice time). 
 
If they can keep anything close to that performance up, and if Brodie/Gio can play like they did tonight more frequently then this team will be set for our top 4 for sure.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:39 PM
			
			
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				It was blown well after. 
			
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Is that a certainty?  That is what I saw too, but you couldn’t hear much with the goal horn and fans going crazy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:40 PM
			
			
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				Serious question here- and I should know this, but do the refs normally blow the whistle if the puck is sitting on the back of the net?  Can’t remember.  I know they blow it when on top of net.  Though then it should have been blown dead right away- not when we were about to score an empty netter. 
			
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Also a serious question, does it matter in this situation.  If they didn’t blow it down when it was on the back of the net, and they didn’t blow it down to signify a goal (which they didn’t I don’t believe) then the problem is they had no reason to blow it down when they did, other than a bunch of Leafs celebrated a non goal which isn’t a reason to blow down play.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:40 PM
			
			
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				So do Stone apologists still think parking 3.5 million in the pressbox to be our #7 defenseman is a good idea? 
			
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It's too early to tell.  He will be needed this year at some point for sure.  Having an insurance policy is never a bad idea
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			More media,coaches,gms need to do what Peters did tonight. Call that bull#### officiating out and hopefully after enough noise something will be done about it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:40 PM
			
			
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				If the puck is "frozen". Flames were a little late to get there but they clearly popped it off without any issue, so usually that's a live play. 
			
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Ok thanks, much appreciated!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:41 PM
			
			
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				Just got back! Praise to the group of Flames fans in section 318! Felt like a home game! 
			
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Were there a lot of Flames fans? Sounded pretty loud when we scored.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-29-2018, 09:41 PM
			
			
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			That penalty to lead to that 5 on 3 was such BS. Flames dominated that game from start to finish. Could’ve easily been a blow out
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:42 PM
			
			
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				More media,coaches,gms need to do what Peters did tonight. Call that bull#### officiating out and hopefully after enough noise something will be done about it. 
			
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Dunno, the risk is that you piss off the officials. We lived through that once already.
 
I'm all in favour of increased accountability for the refs, but I'm not sure we want to be the standard-bearers of that movement.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2018, 09:43 PM
			
			
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			You have to admit.  It is a little easier to get behind a coach who is willing to let a little of his emotion and frustration show. 
 
Maybe the Gulutzan Flames crumbled  
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