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				Flames finalize 23 man opening roster. Peluso,Mangiapane,Andersson,Gillies to Heat.
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Pat Steinberg  @Fan960Steinberg 
GM Brad Treliving confirms Peluso, Mangiapane, Andersson, and Gillies being assigned to Stockton. #Flames 
 
That reduces the roster to 23 with Lazar still with the team. 
 
 
 
The Flames are now set with their 23 player opening day roster. 
 
FORWARDS 
10 - Derek Ryan 
 
11 - Mikael Backlund 
 
13 - Johnny Gaudreau 
 
18 - James Neal 
 
19 - Matthew Tkachuk 
 
20 - Curtis Lazar 
 
21 - Garnet Hathaway 
 
23 - Sean Monahan 
 
27 - Austin Czarnik 
 
28 - Elias Lindholm 
 
29 - Dillon Dube 
 
67 - Michael Frolik 
 
77 - Mark Jankowski 
 
93 - Sam Bennett 
 
DEFENCE 
5 - Mark Giordano 
 
6 - Dalton Prout 
 
7 - TJ Brodie 
 
8 - Juuso Valimaki 
 
24 - Travis Hamonic 
 
26 - Michael Stone 
 
55 - Noah Hanifin 
 
GOALTENDERS 
33 - David Rittich 
 
41 - Mike Smith
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-02-2018, 12:58 PM
			
			
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			I'm really confused with what's happening with Lazar
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 12:59 PM
			
			
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			Trade? 
 
Maybe?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:00 PM
			
			
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			Strange.  Herald published interview with Lazar this morning, where he was very upbeat and really looking forward to playing in AHL.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-02-2018, 01:01 PM
			
			
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			Trade, or someone not being 100% as someone mentioned is all that makes sense to me. 
 
The 13th forward seems odd, and I thought getting time in the AHL would be a good place to try and evaluate what we really have here.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:02 PM
			
			
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			Pat Steinberg  @Fan960Steinberg 
Treliving says Andersson is ready for the NHL. Says biggest key for him is to stay ready in the AHL, because his opportunity will come. 
 
Says it makes no sense to have Andersson sitting at the NHL level. #Flames
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:04 PM
			
			
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			Lazar thing is odd. I'd say they must have just waived him when waivers were busy to sneak him through and have roster flexibility for the next month. But then there was that interview with Lazar talking about him being sent down. Yet he hasn't been sent down yet
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:05 PM
			
			
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			In tree speak that means : " we will make room for Andersson when I can". 
 
Expect Andersson Valimaki to be a full time pairing before the seasons out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:05 PM
			
			
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			He has a one-way contract. If he's sitting in the box instead of Peluso, the Flames save over $500,000.00 without any difference to the team being iced. 
 
Like Kulak, waivers was hoping someone would take him and they probably looked for a spot for him elsewhere. I know it's not our money, but teams do not want to pay a million dollars to players playing in the AHL unless absolutely necessary.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:06 PM
			
			
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			If Valimaki and Andersson are both ready in the eyes of the GM do we consider trading a dman for another impactful top 6F or even a future #1 goalie?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:09 PM
			
			
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			After reading that article I really feel they should send Lazar down: 
 
Mangiapane-Lazar-Foo 
Klimchuk-Quine-Phillips 
Pollock-Gawdin-Robinson 
Lomberg-Graovac-Rychel 
Peluso/Ehliz/Fischer 
 
Kylington-Andersson 
Taormina-Healey 
Valiev-Hogstrom 
AOM 
 
Gillies 
Parsons 
 
He would gain a ton of confidence playing with our top prospects as part of the go to group.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:10 PM
			
			
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			I think theyre probably looking at trading Stone but having a hard time due to salary implications. Lazar still being with the big team is a little confusing but we already know Tkachuk isnt at 100%. Might just be precautionary
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:12 PM
			
			
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				If Valimaki and Andersson are both ready in the eyes of the GM do we consider trading a dman for another impactful top 6F or even a future #1 goalie? 
			
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Not yet....soon, but not yet. And it will be Stone.
 
Andersson is ready - but do you really want a rookie pairing of Valimaki-Andersson?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:16 PM
			
			
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				Expect Andersson Valimaki to be a full time pairing before the seasons out. 
			
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I hope so. I actually like Michael Stone and wouldn't trade him anytime soon, but if Andersson emerges and makes him expendable by the end of the season then that's a great thing both on the ice and in terms of their cap situation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:17 PM
			
			
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				Not yet....soon, but not yet. And it will be Stone. 
 
 
Andersson is ready - but do you really want a rookie pairing of Valimaki-Andersson? 
			
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I don't see the issue. The top 4 are about as solid as one could ask for. And both Valimaki and Andersson can help with Special teams. 
 
Really if the organization has the confidence in them I see nothing wrong with it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:18 PM
			
			
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			I don't see anything wrong with the Lazar situation, they want him as a rotational and have probably asked him to earn his spot on his limited playing time. He's a reliable NHL'er right now as a reserve guy and has the potential to do better, especially with his attitude. 
 
Also consider that someone might have an injury or is not in game shape, so Lazar can quickly step in.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:19 PM
			
			
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			This will be an unpopular opinion but I think if Andersson makes the team it will be at the expense of Brodie, not Stone. 
 
I think Stone might be here for the duration, or at least this season.  
 
Brodie needs to pick up his game, and he did not look great in preseason imo. My outlook on Brodie after the preseason games is 'troubling'.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:19 PM
			
			
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			Idk what games you watched, Flash. In my eyes, the Giordano-Brodie pairing looked great.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-02-2018, 01:22 PM
			
			
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				This will be an unpopular opinion but I think if Andersson makes the team it will be at the expense of Brodie, not Stone. 
 
I think Stone might be here for the duration, or at least this season.  
 
Brodie needs to pick up his game, and he did not look great in preseason imo. My outlook on Brodie after the preseason games is 'troubling'. 
			
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So what are you thinking then? 
Gio - Hamonic 
Hanifin - andersson 
Valimaki - stone?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-02-2018, 01:24 PM
			
			
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				Idk what games you watched, Flash. In my eyes, the Giordano-Brodie pairing looked great. 
			
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Giordano looked great.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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