[Trade] Kulak to the Habs for Rinat Valiev and Matt Taormina - Page 6 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

IamNotKenKing · 10-01-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Madman

So long Tom Kulak.

Not the meme.

mrdonkey · 10-01-2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Not the meme.

Quiet, Tom.

topfiverecords · 10-01-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

Oh man, are we going to be happy that Treliving was able to hold onto someone. Good ol' someone.

If Someone is on LD, Who is on RD.

topfiverecords · 10-01-2018, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kybb79

In Stockton

So you don't want Lazar or Hathaway in Stockton either? You'd rather we keep Peluso as our 13th and trade Lazar + Hathaway off Stockton/Popcorn Role for picks?

Scornfire · 10-01-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by topfiverecords

If Someone is on LD, Who is on RD.

yes

Bonded · 10-01-2018, 03:51 PM

I like the trade purely for the hair

SmoggyFlamesFan · 10-01-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleks

/s

Depends what you are willing to give up for Carey Price. It would take a hell of a lot more than Kulak, plus his outrageous salary.

GreenLantern2814 · 10-01-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Followed Valiev a bit while he was with the Leafs organization. Decent enough puck mover.
Good size. Not as offense oriented as one would like but I think this is just buying an extra farm year contractually for a similar player to Kulak.

Hey another Russian!

Brad has quietly been adding Russians to our system for several years now - I like it

Russia is too big a country with too many hockey players for the Flames to simply ignore. Do I want them spending high picks on Russians, not really. Do I want them to grab a kid like Zavgorodny somewhere between the 5th and 7th each year? Hell yeah.

I'd much rather they do that than waste a pick on a lummox in the hopes that he becomes Chara.

puckedoff · 10-01-2018, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

Depends what you are willing to give up for Carey Price. It would take a hell of a lot more than Kulak, plus his outrageous salary.

Kulak may be somewhat overpaid but I wouldn't say his salary is outrageous.

Buff · 10-01-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonded

I like the trade purely for the hair

So that's where my haircut from 1996 went.

shadowlord · 10-01-2018, 06:24 PM

Good for Kulak, but I feel we should have gotten more from Montreal for him. We had a few organizational needs (draft picks, back up goaltending) that neither of the players coming back address.

Kulak alone doesn't get it done, but maybe bundled with other assets.

What's that saying about the team that gives up the best player loses the trade? Kulak was the best player in this transaction.

Anyway, wish Kulak the best of luck on his new team. He wasn't spectacular, but I liked his play last year as a #6D. Knew when to jump in on a rush, and got back into position promptly. There was a potential ceiling of a middle pairing D in his future.

joejoe3 · 10-01-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowlord

Good for Kulak, but I feel we should have gotten more from Montreal for him. We had a few organizational needs (draft picks, back up goaltending) that neither of the players coming back address.

Kulak alone doesn't get it done, but maybe bundled with other assets.

What's that saying about the team that gives up the best player loses the trade? Kulak was the best player in this transaction.

Anyway, wish Kulak the best of luck on his new team. He wasn't spectacular, but I liked his play last year as a #6D. Knew when to jump in on a rush, and got back into position promptly. There was a potential ceiling of a middle pairing D in his future.

Kulak was on waiver twice and was not picked up, as mentioned before, not a player that Tre could get anything much for unless you add to it.

Roof-Daddy · 10-01-2018, 06:40 PM

Nice to see them bringing in an AHL ringer for the Heat D core.

I think the Heat might actually be a playoff team this year with the younger guys a year older and some of the other vets they brought in.

Especially if Rasmus plays significant time down there again.

tkflames · 10-01-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman on 960 said that he heard that the Flames and Habs were working on a 3 for 3 trade this summer involving the same players.

Shinkaruk + Kulak + someone for Rychel+Valiev+Taormira

Somewhere Hathaway just breathed a sigh of relief...

browna · 10-01-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Figured something like this would transpire. Move out a spare part for some minor league depth.

Getting soft in your old age, figured you’d quote JohnnyFlame.

Dufus for Dufuses!!!!1!

That said Kulak isn’t a dufus. Much more serviceable 6th than the Flames have had for a while.

Mightyfire89 · 10-01-2018, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

Depends what you are willing to give up for Carey Price. It would take a hell of a lot more than Kulak, plus his outrageous salary.

the-rasta-masta · 10-01-2018, 07:18 PM

Taormina has the highest points/game for a defensemen in the AHL playing over 20 games last season. He was third in points/game the season prior as well, right there with a few high potential NHL defensemen in Christian Djoos and Brandon Montour.

What's the deal with this guy to not make that next jump? Too one dimensional, too small?

David Struch · 10-01-2018, 07:20 PM

Why did the Canadiens turn over their new players so quick?

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Rinat Valiev was drafted by the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2014, in the third round at 68th overall. He was acquired just before the 2018 trade deadline by the Montreal Canadiens, in the package that sent lifetime Habs player Tomas Plekanec and AHLer Kyle Baun to the Leafs in exchange for the defenceman, a 2018 second-round pick (which became Jacob Olofsson), and Kerby Rychel.

2018 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: #24 Rinat Valiev

https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/t...scouting-stats

heep223 · 10-01-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

Why did the Canadiens turn over their new players so quick?

2018 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: #24 Rinat Valiev

https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/t...scouting-stats

Not French

David Struch · 10-01-2018, 09:08 PM

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we might see Valiev get a shot at cracking the roster at some point during the year.

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evolved into one of the most dependable defencemen” for the Marlies, and that he “might find himself on the Habs roster sooner rather than later

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At 6’3’’, and 215 pounds, he could become a decent choice as a more stay-at-home option. When he’s playing a physical game, the Russian defender can be a disruptive force against the opposition. He has the physique and the tools to be a sixth or seventh defenceman on a Habs team needing a few bodies to flesh out the roster.

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Valiev’s puck-handling skills are excellent, and so is his skating. Due to his imposing stature, he can take the puck away from a forward deep in his own end and use his size and speed to protect the puck.

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Once he’s navigated to the neutral zone, Valiev’s first instinct is to find the nearest forward for a pass. As said before, Valiev still plays a more defensive game even though he has a toolkit fitting of a puck-carrying defenceman. He is still a defender who helps his forwards with good outlet passes and setting up plays to maintain possession.

https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/t...scouting-stats