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Old 09-13-2018, 01:16 PM   #181
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Looks like Colorado will be drafting Jack Hughes in 2019. They have the Sens 2019 First Round Pick
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:16 PM   #182
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So...who will have the worst attendance in the league this year?

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Old 09-13-2018, 01:17 PM   #183
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for the Sharks to not have to give up any of Meier, Hertl, Donskoy, Braun or Dillon AND not have to take Ryan is an absolute steal.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:18 PM   #184
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My heart goes out to Sens fans.
The fan base that couldn't sell out conference finals games two seasons ago?
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:19 PM   #185
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What I find really funny about this deal is hearing the source kissass Dreger say that the prospects coming back are good and it was a good trade for the Sens. Pretty obvious his source for breaking this story was a Sens guy. Then you have Button in a separate video saying that the Sens got robbed. I'm with Button - quantity doesn't equal quality. Even if the Sens were rebuilding, you'd think they'd get back an a grade prospect and a player who can step in right now with very good potential. This team could not have screwed this one up, and they did. Hard to see much light at the end of the tunnel for Ottawa, and that's unfortunate because it's still a Canadian franchise.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:20 PM   #186
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If Ottawa is going scorched earth. thats the kind of trade that helps get things rolling in two years. Move stone out at the deadline for a quality pick and prospect, possibly Duchene as well as I don't see any way he's going to want to be the anchor there long term.

I actually think they're gonna tear this thing down to not even the foundation but right to the bone. Ottawa or whatever city they'll be in in 4 years might have a chance to get excited about their up and coming team.

Man I cannot believe that the loss of Bryan Murray meant the loss of everything Senators.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:21 PM   #187
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So...who will have the worst attendance in the league this year?

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Ottawa easily. They want Melnyk gone so badly I fear they may actually not support the team what so ever. Even if it means losing the team.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:21 PM   #188
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Ottawa gets players, picks AND cap space. People rarely seem to weigh that last part.
You can't be serious? Ottawa doesn't spend to the cap anyways and even if they did what are they going to do with it? Acquiring cap space is a lot easier to do than acquiring a two time norris winning defense man in the prime of his career.

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Old 09-13-2018, 01:22 PM   #189
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Erik Karlsson cost the Sharks less than Adam Larsson cost the Oilers
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:22 PM   #190
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Here are the conditions per the Sens:
Melnyk to Dorion: Don't you dare trade Hoffman to anyone in the East!

Wilson: I will help you Dorion

Melnyk to Dorion: How the hell did Hoffman land with the Panthers! Dorion, you better make sure that never happens with Karlsson or you will be thrown out. No EAST!

Wilson: I will help you Dorion, and we promise not to trade him...we can even put it in the trade, but it will cost you.



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Old 09-13-2018, 01:25 PM   #191
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If Karlsson isn't in SJ a year from now, is it a good deal? If they win a cup, yeah. But what if they don't?
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haha these ottawa fan call-ins are government worker dweebs.

"Great trade"
"Removes locker room distraction"
"pass reigns to heart and soul guys like Duchane and Andersson"

LOL - what a soul-suck of a town.

Ahaha - the radio hosts are ripping their own fans' takes on the trade!
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:29 PM   #193
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I actually think they're gonna tear this thing down to not even the foundation but right to the bone. Ottawa or whatever city they'll be in in 4 years might have a chance to get excited about their up and coming team.
I think they have to. The timing just sucks - if they could somehow undo that Duchene deal, they'd be fine. But dealing that 1st right before the wheels flew off like that ... brutal.
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"pass reigns to heart and soul guys like Duchane and Andersson"
Hahaha,what?
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:31 PM   #195
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If Karlsson isn't in SJ a year from now, is it a good deal? If they win a cup, yeah. But what if they don't?

Was wondering the same. If this turns out to be for one year of Karlsson, what is the measure of success for SJ? A conference final?
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Hahaha,what?
Its surreal the level of dillusion and willful blindness of these callers. I assume that most have just don't have it in them to even pick up the phone. Man...they might draw like 8000 fans per game this year.

They're going to force Melynk to sell the team at a terrible price because the franchise is going to be so unprofitable!
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:33 PM   #197
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Pretty mad that the Pacific division in the last week have added Max Pacioretty and Erik Karlsson. The Atlantic only gets weaker while the Pacific becomes even stronger. It’s going to be tough to make noise even if we make the playoffs. Crossing my fingers that Karlsson only stays the one year and bolts to the Eastern Conference later.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:35 PM   #198
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Was wondering the same. If this turns out to be for one year of Karlsson, what is the measure of success for SJ? A conference final?
They traded spare parts for Karlsson. They can trade him at the trade deadline, or at the draft, for certainly more than they got themselves if it comes to that.

Sharks can trade from a position of strength rather than a position of weakness like the Sens.

It's a pure win no matter what happens. The chance of losing him outright to free agency is worth the trade and the positives, remove Karlsson and they only lost a little bit of easily replaceable depth. They will easily see value back from selling Karlsson jerseys
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:38 PM   #199
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Is it possible that this trade is bad for both sides?? Ottawa gets nothing that could be blue-chip. Best case scenario in 5 years, they may have some depth from their magic beans and a decent middle 6 in Balcers and Tierney San Jose has one shot to win the cup...this year. Between this trade and the Kane deal, they have gutted their draft picks for the next 3 years. There is no denying that their back end can now be compared to the Pronger/Niedermayer backend that Anaheim sported for their cup run. However, next year, can they afford to pay: Burns, Kane, Couture, Vlassic, Couture, Hertl and the rest of their core going forward? One big injury over the entire season, and this could be a huge wash. This is about as all-in when it comes to going for the cup.
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The Pacific will be a dogfight this year. Ottawa rivaling Edmonton for worst managed team now.
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