09-08-2018, 11:25 AM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by codynw
Serious question, if Giordano finishes his career in Calgary does he deserve a jersey retirement? Or would he be more of a 'FaF' kind of player?
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I would say so. Played his entire career for Flames, Captain, multiple years as a top tier defenseman, multiple top 10 finishes in Norris trophy voting, back to back Stanley Cup champion.
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09-08-2018, 11:46 AM
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#42
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I would say so. Played his entire career for Flames, Captain, multiple years as a top tier defenseman, multiple top 10 finishes in Norris trophy voting, back to back Stanley Cup champion.
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09-08-2018, 11:52 AM
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#43
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by RM14
Why is it disrespectful for a player to wear a great previous players number? Not sure why it upsets people.
I like that 25 and 2 have been used again.
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“Why would I just want you to just put the jersey in the rafters and then the only time you show the jersey is when I croak?” Irvin says. “And then I die and then you come on TV and say “oh, we lost Michael today, there’s his jersey, back to the game!’ And then you get right back to the game! But now, Dez Bryant wears the jersey, every Sunday when he makes a play somebody is saying aw man, he looks just like Michael Irvin! And every Sunday if he drops a pass somebody says ‘Michael Irvin wouldn’t have dropped that pass’. You know what I’m saying? So I get my flowers while I’m living!”
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09-08-2018, 12:09 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Gio needs a Cup for his jersey to be retired IMO.
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09-08-2018, 03:06 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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Giordano is a fantastic player and a brilliant leader for this team.
However I don't think he will get his jersey retired unless
a. Wins a cup here
b. plays consistantly until he's about 40
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09-08-2018, 04:34 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Behind you.
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Nieuy, MacInnis, Fleury pushed to leave the Flames and force a move= FAF.
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09-08-2018, 04:45 PM
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#47
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Burn13
Nieuy, MacInnis, Fleury pushed to leave the Flames and force a move= FAF.
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The Flames couldn't afford to resign MacInnis and Fleury and lost them both to free agency.
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09-08-2018, 04:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Dion
The Flames couldn't afford to resign MacInnis and Fleury and lost them both to free agency.
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Well, they lost Macinnis to an offer sheet and they traded Fleury (but I suppose they would have lost him to free agency).
Last edited by GioforPM; 09-08-2018 at 07:55 PM.
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09-08-2018, 05:03 PM
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#49
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, they lost Macinnes to an offer sheet and they traded Fleury (but I suppose they would have lost him to free agency).
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Yikes! My memory is not as good as it used to be. You're right and I stand corrected.
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10-22-2018, 12:12 AM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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On the day Kariya's jersey was retired, brings me to Iginla... Any news?
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10-22-2018, 12:20 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Gio needs a Cup for his jersey to be retired IMO.
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Why? That would be 1 more than iggy got . Why the double standard? Iggy does have more hard ware
I would argue Gio deserves to have his number retired if Vernon does. Vernon had only one solid season for the flames.
Last edited by combustiblefuel; 10-22-2018 at 12:24 AM.
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10-22-2018, 08:33 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
Why? That would be 1 more than iggy got . Why the double standard? Iggy does have more hard ware
I would argue Gio deserves to have his number retired if Vernon does. Vernon had only one solid season for the flames.
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Iggy, Kipper, Vernon and Lanny all have major trophies if you include the Cup. I will admit the Lanny and Vernon jersey retirements are a little generous, but it was a very young franchise without much history and the choices seem appropriate.
Gio hasn't won any major hardware, and has VERY limited playoff success. I think he is in the same tier as Regher in this instance.
Still plenty of hockey to be played and Cups to be won.
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10-22-2018, 11:08 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
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When do we retire 34?
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10-22-2018, 11:17 AM
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#54
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by doozwimp
When do we retire 34?
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 Not sure if serious
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10-22-2018, 11:36 AM
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#55
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Has anyone worn 34 since Kiprusoff? I don't believe anyone has.
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10-22-2018, 11:39 AM
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#56
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Those two need to be retired, no FaF.
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10-22-2018, 11:44 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rain_e
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Seriously, what a preposterous idea to retire the number of likely the best goalie this franchise will ever have.
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10-22-2018, 11:51 AM
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#58
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
Why? That would be 1 more than iggy got . Why the double standard? Iggy does have more hard ware
I would argue Gio deserves to have his number retired if Vernon does. Vernon had only one solid season for the flames.
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Only one solid season?
85-86 - Took the team to the Cup Finals
86-87 - Third in the NHL with 30 wins
87-88 - NHL All-Star Game; 39 wins
88-89 - Led NHL in wins, 2nd in GAA, won Cup; NHL All-Star Game
89-90 - NHL All-Star Game
90-91 - NHL All-Star Game; 2nd in wins
92-93 - Fifth NHL All-Star Game
On top of all that, before Vernon arrived, the Flames lost to the Oilers all the time (Flames had only 6 wins in a 40-game stretch and only one win in Edmonton from 81-86). After he arrived, they owned the Oilers pretty much until Vernon left the team.
He turned their fortunes around and made the team a contender when they couldn't get over the hump before. He deserves to have that number in the rafters.
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11-18-2018, 10:07 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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So one has to think that, at this point in the season, they won’t be retiring his jersey this year, as they’d want lots of time to earmark that as a special game/night. Seems like a pretty ridiculous oversight on the part of the organization. No idea what the reason behind the delay could be.
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11-18-2018, 10:14 PM
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#60
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751
Only one solid season?
85-86 - Took the team to the Cup Finals
86-87 - Third in the NHL with 30 wins
87-88 - NHL All-Star Game; 39 wins
88-89 - Led NHL in wins, 2nd in GAA, won Cup; NHL All-Star Game
89-90 - NHL All-Star Game
90-91 - NHL All-Star Game; 2nd in wins
92-93 - Fifth NHL All-Star Game
On top of all that, before Vernon arrived, the Flames lost to the Oilers all the time (Flames had only 6 wins in a 40-game stretch and only one win in Edmonton from 81-86). After he arrived, they owned the Oilers pretty much until Vernon left the team.
He turned their fortunes around and made the team a contender when they couldn't get over the hump before. He deserves to have that number in the rafters.
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You are so correct. Placing him behind Kipper as all time greatest goaltender is a cardinal sin.
You didn’t even mention he won another Cup with Detroit.
If Rogie Vachon is in the Hall of Fame Vernon should be there.
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