Multiple Victims Shot in Toronto's Greektown

[Matata]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

would it be different than say check stops for drunk driving?

Depends on what criteria you're using to compare them.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I think society should be trained to flag people who exhibit signs of mental or emotional distress. This doesn't necessarily mean reporting them to the police, but rather being cognizant of when those signs exist, and have protocols or clear communications on who to contact for additional assistance - whether it be family or health services, emergency, etc.

More often than not those individuals in distress cannot recognize it themselves or don't know how to reach out. Reaching out a hand early in the process can be the difference between saving a life or costing them.

I'm not really a fan of the concept of neighbors spying on neighbors, and it just seems that you can make someone's life a living hell with the whole call family call health services, emergency etc.


Or if it is someone with real mental problems, and its not handled properly it can do more harm then good.


plus if the person still has the right to refuse Aid then what? A court order is filed? The person is dragged in for a evaluation?

[oldschoolcalgary]

thanks for the inputs...

i think that's something that they should revisit esp for illegal handguns... there's no reason to have an illegal handgun except for the purpose of committing a crime.

personally, i'd be all in favor of increasing that penalty if it curtails gun violence...Have a 6 month amnesty period where people can turn in illegal firearms without penalty and after that, the rule of law takes over...

[CaptainCrunch]

Sure I agree, people that have illegal weapons for the most part are breaking the law.


Give them 6 months to turn them in. I'm good with that


After that if your caught with an illegal weapon its 5 years in jail. If you use it its 10 years, if you kill someone no parole, if your part of a gang that kills someone with a gun your all going away it doesn't matter if you shot or not. If your caught smuggling guns into the country 15 years at hard labor (And trust me we could create work camps).

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

would it be different than say check stops for drunk driving?

If you're just walking along minding your own business why should you have to produce identification? So they know your papers were stamped at Checkpoint Charlie?

If you're driving a car you are required to produce your license when requested by a Police officer because a license is required to legally drive a car on public roads. No one is required to produce ID or even identify themselves while on foot unless they are suspected of committing a crime or are in the process of doing so when confronted by an officer.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm not really a fan of the concept of neighbors spying on neighbors, and it just seems that you can make someone's life a living hell with the whole call family call health services, emergency etc.

Social media is already enabling this concept. And it's not going away. Best to find a way to work with it to open lines of communication early. Teach future generations the warning signs of behavior that might lead to events like these, whether it's in-person, on a phone, or otherwise.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not sure what is more American than the proliferation of guns?

I came across this article this morning:

Weekend toll in Chicago: 6 dead, 38 wounded

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...723-story.html

At least 1,574 people have been shot in the city this year, fewer than the last two years at this time when violence hit record levels in the city but well above other recent years. There have been at least 285 homicides, according to Tribune data.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...htmlstory.html

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm not really a fan of the concept of neighbors spying on neighbors, and it just seems that you can make someone's life a living hell with the whole call family call health services, emergency etc.

Oh boy, can one ever make someone else's life a hassle with 'constant professional interventions'.

plus if the person still has the right to refuse Aid then what? A court order is filed? The person is dragged in for a evaluation?

There are several avenues here, if someone refuses help or evaluation. A court can order that someone report (or be taken for) mental evaluation. Usually a family member will apply for it. If someone is seeing a mental health expert and they have concerns, they can apply as well. Police are also capable of 'arresting' someone and transporting them to a hospital for evaluation.

But the problem comes when the person doesn't believe they have a problem (or acknowledge it). You can get them some level of help, but if they refuse to keep it up it's really just a cycle as there is only so much that can be done.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Satire isn't a 2nd wrong, it's a tool to illustrate the absurdity of the first wrong.

It missed its mark pretty hard though when it used Indo Canadians as the counter. It wasn't that long ago that Indo Canadian gangs were causing a ruckus in BC and the worst terrorist attack in Canadian history was committed by Indo Canadians. Should have picked a more absurd example to illustrate the absurdity.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by troutman

I came across this article this morning:

Weekend toll in Chicago: 6 dead, 38 wounded

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...723-story.html




http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...htmlstory.html

We don't watch local news here

[Nyah]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1021488144380772354

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Nyah

https://twitter.com/user/status/1021488144380772354

Sounds like someone who was active in her community. This is horrible.

[darockwilder]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...oter-1.4757566

Just the guys name.

[Peanut]

I’m not sure how “carding” is going to crack down on the variety of mass shootings perpetrated by the lone angry shooter. It’s more for preventing gang-crime, isn’t it? (with dubious benefit I guess).

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I’m not sure how “carding” is going to crack down on the variety of mass shootings perpetrated by angry white men. It’s more for preventing gang-crime (with dubious benefit I guess).

incels never carry ID

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Statement from the shooter’s family.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Statement from the shooter’s family.

Wow. In addition to the victims and their families, you really have to feel for this family as well.

Just a terrible situation all around.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Meh. To me it's no different than the guy condemning Emery for a previous assault charge in the thread about him drowning. There's a time and place for these things but some people badly misjudge when. This is a thread about the story where innocent people died and do we really need to be educated about how blind white privileged people are?

And yet you didn't have a problem with the post that suggested BLM might have somehow contributed to the shooting.

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[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Gangs. Which are usually the consequence of lots of young men who didn't have dads in their lives.

Sooo...uh..really nailed that one, eh Cliff?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sooo...uh..really nailed that one, eh Cliff?

I believe it was in response to the post directly above asking what is going on in Toronto with all the gun violence.

Which has nothing to do with this situation, but that wasn’t the question.