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		|  05-28-2018, 01:22 PM | #1541 |  
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			Donaldson was starting to look pretty locked in at the plate too. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious, certainly hope it’s not one of those pesky oblique strains.
		 
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		|  05-28-2018, 01:41 PM | #1542 |  
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			It's his calf again
 Sanchez's struggles are so distressing to me
 
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		|  05-28-2018, 01:46 PM | #1543 |  
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			He only walked 1 batter which is a positive, the 7 ER are not though.
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		|  05-28-2018, 01:51 PM | #1544 |  
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			Bichette was 2-4 today as was Vladdy Jr who had a double.   
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		|  05-28-2018, 02:14 PM | #1545 |  
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			if you call up Vladdy you're just fine tuning him for someone else one year earlier.
		 
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		|  05-28-2018, 02:20 PM | #1546 |  
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			So assuming JD hits the DL, move Martin back to third where I think he is better suited, call up Danny Jansen and get this guy groomed as our next every day catcher.
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		|  05-28-2018, 02:22 PM | #1547 |  
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			I wonder what kind of offers Jays management was getting for Donaldson last year?
 Haha, screw that, I don't want to know.
 
 How frustrating.
 
 Kind of disastrous for Donaldson too so far.
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		|  05-28-2018, 04:06 PM | #1548 |  
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 Donaldson doesn't believe the calf injury is serious. Said #BlueJays would likely give him a day off tomorrow but it will depend on how he feels. Similar issue to the one he had in Spring Training but different than last year's calf issue, which was in his right leg. This is left
 
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		|  05-28-2018, 04:19 PM | #1549 |  
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			4 games under and people are saying season is over, lol.  They started 12-5, this could just be a bad stretch. The season is so long. Three years ago they were 1 under and made trades and look what happened.  
 Fans in general want to blow it up and get prospects but then never want to waste said prospects. It happens in hockey too.
 
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		|  05-28-2018, 04:28 PM | #1550 |  
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					Originally Posted by zukes  4 games under and people are saying season is over, lol.  They started 12-5, this could just be a bad stretch. The season is so long. Three years ago they were 1 under and made trades and look what happened.  
 Fans in general want to blow it up and get prospects but then never want to waste said prospects. It happens in hockey too.
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They could turn it around sure. Pretty unlikely though with the starting rotation in shambles and no Osuna to anchor the bullpen anymore.
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		|  05-28-2018, 04:34 PM | #1551 |  
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					Originally Posted by zukes  4 games under and people are saying season is over, lol.  They started 12-5, this could just be a bad stretch. The season is so long. Three years ago they were 1 under and made trades and look what happened.  
 Fans in general want to blow it up and get prospects but then never want to waste said prospects. It happens in hockey too.
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I think what makes people think it's over is more that they look like absolute trash out there then their record.  Their early season record hid some ugly truths about this team.
 
They're going to be battling it out with Baltimore for last in the AL East.
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		|  05-28-2018, 04:41 PM | #1552 |  
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					Originally Posted by zukes  4 games under and people are saying season is over, lol.  They started 12-5, this could just be a bad stretch. The season is so long. Three years ago they were 1 under and made trades and look what happened.  
 Fans in general want to blow it up and get prospects but then never want to waste said prospects. It happens in hockey too.
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Fair. Obviously this season isn't lost and I am happy to remain optimistic that there is a chance they could turn this around just a couple things really stand out to me.  Being 8 games behind the 2nd wildcard spot and having three teams in front of them, including the Angels and the Mariners who currently hold that spot, that's a big hill to climb.
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		|  05-28-2018, 05:13 PM | #1553 |  
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			When 2/5's of your starting pitching has been absolute trash with two more barely above that you have to seriously think about throwing in the towel. I didn't have high hopes for the season seeing that there are teams out there that are vastly superior so I am fine with the trades starting any day now. 
 The timely hitting carried them for the first little while but you knew that would come back to earth. The pitching continuing to struggle is the most worrisome part. It's too bad but they have to take a hard look at rebuilding Sanchez. Something is really off.
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		|  05-28-2018, 05:17 PM | #1554 |  
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			only 2/5ths?? That's generous.  Some teams literally have #5 starters pitching better then our #2.
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		|  05-28-2018, 08:16 PM | #1555 |  
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					Originally Posted by Parallex  Counter-point: In that situation you're now publicly paying millions of dollars to a guy that beat the #### out of the mother of his child. |  
Has there been any story about what allegedly occurred?
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		|  05-28-2018, 09:36 PM | #1556 |  
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					Originally Posted by zukes  4 games under and people are saying season is over, lol.  They started 12-5, this could just be a bad stretch. The season is so long. Three years ago they were 1 under and made trades and look what happened.  
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2015 and this year is apples and oranges. Not even close. That was a team with star players at or just past their peak, then added an Ace pitcher and Tulowitski (who was still pretty great at the time). They went as all in as Rogers would permit (and AA's parting ways showed he actually likely went further than they wanted).
 
This is not that. This team wasn't going to do much this season and is looking pretty much correct right now. It was just a hot streak, and with that they're still 8 games out of a wildcard with three teams to jump.
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		|  05-28-2018, 10:32 PM | #1557 |  
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					Originally Posted by fleury  Has there been any story about what allegedly occurred? |  
I don’t think so, his first court date is on June 18th so we will see if any more info is released.
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		|  05-29-2018, 10:59 AM | #1558 |  
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					Originally Posted by fleury  Has there been any story about what allegedly occurred? |  
Officially no. Unofficially there was a guy on Reddit who broke that something was up with Osuna before the regular media got it and the word from him was that if an ordinary person did what Osuna allegedly did they'd be looking at jail time.
 
That's pure second hand information but given the reactions from all parties involved I think that's probably likely.
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		|  05-29-2018, 11:05 AM | #1559 |  
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					Originally Posted by Parallex  Officially no. Unofficially there was a guy on Reddit who broke that something was up with Osuna before the regular media got it and the word from him was that if an ordinary person did what Osuna allegedly did they'd be looking at jail time.
 That's pure second hand information but given the reactions from all parties involved I think that's probably likely.
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There was also another person that said he "threw a few punches and threw her down the stairs".  But like you said nothing official yet.
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		|  05-29-2018, 02:28 PM | #1560 |  
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					Originally Posted by Dan02  only 2/5ths?? That's generous.  Some teams literally have #5 starters pitching better then our #2. |  
I didn't want to come off as too harsh but yes, outside of Happ the starting pitching has been terrible. Just an all round terrible start to the season with injuries and inconsistencies.
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