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Old 05-15-2018, 09:02 PM   #261
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:05 PM   #262
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But the thread is 4 days old...

I just figured it fit in with some of the other discussion going on.
Yeah, sorry, different thread I meant. I think it fits in here too.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:46 PM   #263
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Cliff is right, there has been lots of traction on racism over the years, but even his delivery is frustrating as you sense an undertone of "look at all this progress so shut up about racism already".
I've never said shut up about racism. I've said that if you live in one of the least racist countries on the planet, one in which racism has been declining for decades, it might be worthwhile to consider what it is we're doing right, as well as what we can do better. Because the stuff we're right isn't inevitable. Especially if we can't even recognize what it is.
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Another incident. This time, a white neighbour calls the cops on a black real estate investor inspecting a potential investment.

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Old 05-16-2018, 07:00 AM   #266
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The Thomas Sowell video never touched on systemic racism. It was an opinion based conversation about free market libertarianism. A pretty boring one too unfortunately.
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Police pull Black drivers over more. Search them more and STILL find less illegal contraband, including drugs and guns, than they do on white drivers. Black drivers still arrested more anyway.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b1d709249d42
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Study: anti-black hiring discrimination is as prevalent today as it was in 1989
Racism is alive and well in America.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/...dy-racism-jobs

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The researchers deployed a variety of controls to verify their results, from measuring outcomes in different ways to controlling for socioeconomic variables like geography and unemployment rates. But they concluded, “In all models, we see little evidence of a reduction in hiring discrimination against African Americans over time.”
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the findings are telling: Since the height of the crack cocaine epidemic and all of the racism associated with it in the 1980s, anti-black discrimination in hiring does not appear to have changed. That may help explain why, for example, unemployment gaps between black and white Americans have also barely changed over time, and why racial wealth and income gaps are still so bad.

The bottom line is whether you get a job in America can come down to your race.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:47 AM   #269
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Why the obsession with America?
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Why the obsession with America?
I don't want to speak for icecube but I think America has done more research on racism than anywhere else in the world. Additionally, despite being the first real 'free' nation they also had slaves not that long ago, relatively speaking, making them an obvious case study for modern racism.
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Also i'ts pretty obvious that American social and political emotions are being exported to Canada en mass through news, television, social media, meme-culture etc. so any major feelings that grow there tend to spill over here.

Ontario is poised to elect Doug Ford premier for godsakes.
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This was a waste of time. So to prove black suppression is not a thing, they decide to interview a bunch of young urban black folks who are walking out and about in New York City? I'm sure someone else could interview a bunch of poor shut-ins in rural America and get completely opposite answers. What's the point here?

The point is that privileged liberals who are super comfortable speaking about whats best for minorities are actually pretty numb to their experiences and the ideology they parrot, that makes them feel so good about themselves, is condescending and racist.


The most "white trash" stuff that comes up on my facebook feed is from some brothers who emigrated from Peru, the only people who "tsk tsk" them about the things they post are white liberals who try to remind them that because of their skin colour and where they come from, they need to think a certain way.
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The point is that privileged liberals who are super comfortable speaking about whats best for minorities are actually pretty numb to their experiences and the ideology they parrot, that makes them feel so good about themselves, is condescending and racist.


The most "white trash" stuff that comes up on my facebook feed is from some brothers who emigrated from Peru, the only people who "tsk tsk" them about the things they post are white liberals.
This is a pretty close but no potato post.

You realize white people's privilege makes them more able to have these conversations publicly?

Or maybe you just don't have too many PoC on your Facebook I dunno.
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This is a pretty close but no potato post.

You realize white people's privilege makes them more able to have these conversations publicly?

Or maybe you just don't have too many PoC on your Facebook I dunno.

I have no idea what this statement means.


Is PoC a safe term? Sounds a lot like 'coloured folk' to me.
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Dear white people, wake up: Canada is racist

http://theconversation.com/dear-whit...s-racist-83124

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Canadians widely believe their country to be a peaceful, multicultural country without racism.

Yet human rights activists and critical race scholars provide evidence that inequity is woven into the fabric of Canadian institutions and normalized in everyday practices.

The absence of racism and racists is one of Canada’s “fable-like” racial stories. In Racism Without Racists, scholar Eduardo Bonilla-Silva says we tell and retell ourselves the same moral story.

The majority of racism “remains hidden beneath a veneer of normality,” says sociologist David Gillborn, “and it is only the more crude and obvious forms of racism that are seen as problematic by most people.”

Institutions of higher education are especially prone to reproducing inequalities beneath a “facade of meritocracy and colour blindness.”

As a Black feminist and critical researcher of race and education at UBC, it is not uncommon to encounter students and colleagues who deny not only institutional racism in Canada but also the ways in which we are all implicated.

This matrix of domination permeates our universities, schools, communities, religious institutions and even our families. That is, intersecting dimensions such as race, class, gender, sexuality, disability and religion affect us all but they can be especially powerful in Canadian institutions.
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Absolute statements like "Canada is racist" are stupid. Saying "there are still racists in Canada" is more accurate.
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Dear white people, wake up: Canada is racist

http://theconversation.com/dear-whit...s-racist-83124
Fails to outline exactly what forms or measures of racism exist beneath the "veneer of racism", and uses quotes from a self outed racist to drive the point home.
Well done wedge issue provacateurs, well done.
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Since racism is found in every country, I don't understand the point of saying Canada is racist. It's like saying Canada is a murderous country because there are murders here.
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Spoiler!


I like that the infographic has a line trending upwards like that despite 2012 having the most hate crimes by far.
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