2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Yoho]

I’m sure it wasn’t too tough of a sell for St. Louis to agree to that term either.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

I know this is beating a dead horse...

But the funniest thing I heard last night from Friedman was how Winnipeg lottery protected the first they traded for Stastny ... always CYA

LOL. Did they also ask for a clause reversing the trade if aliens abducted Stastny, or he got pregnant?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why? That's the cost of doing business in the NHL these days and keeping your top young players. 960 plays Toronto radio on the weekends and they are fully prepared for a $7+ million contract. When you look at what Draisaitl and Eichel got and compare the offensive output, Nylander's agent can make a compelling case he's worth a contract in the $7 million range. Is he worth that much? It's debatable but that's the going rate and you can blame teams like Edmonton and Buffalo for blowing up the salary expectations for young RFA's.

Because Matthews and Marner are the future and are going to command big money. They need to allocate some funding to a top pairing d man.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why? That's the cost of doing business in the NHL these days and keeping your top young players. 960 plays Toronto radio on the weekends and they are fully prepared for a $7+ million contract. When you look at what Draisaitl and Eichel got and compare the offensive output, Nylander's agent can make a compelling case he's worth a contract in the $7 million range. Is he worth that much? It's debatable but that's the going rate and you can blame teams like Edmonton and Buffalo for blowing up the salary expectations for young RFA's.

Good. I hope they pay Marner 9m, Matthews 11m and Nylander 8m.

[SportsJunky]

Interesting article at the Athletic about RHDs that the Leafs should target. The author makes a solid push for them to trade with Calgary for Rasmus Andersson.

Trade is one for one: Rasmus Andersson for Kasperi Kapanen.
The Flames are desperate for a right winger (they had Chris Stewart playing on their first line after they claimed him off waivers), and the Leafs are desperate for a RHD. Calgary has a surplus of RHD in their organization, while Toronto has a surplus of wingers. The way I see it, this trade makes too much sense.

It’s worth noting that Calgary has another high-end RHD prospect in Adam Fox, who’s been lighting up the NCAA for the past two years, not to mention Juuso Valimaki and Oliver Kylington, who look like excellent LHD prospects. Considering their organizational depth at defence, they could afford to move Andersson if it helped them address their biggest need (RW).
If only Toronto had a surplus of prospects at a position where Calgary had an organizational weakness…

You might find this hard to believe, but I’m a big Rasmus Andersson fan. There aren’t too many players who have accomplished what he has at such a young age, and he’s barely scratched the surface of his potential. If you’re a fan of Dermott’s game, you’re going to love this kid.
Despite having a historical season in the AHL, Calgary only gave him 10 games this year, opting to play Stone on their bottom pairing instead. Considering that Stone is making $3.5 million for two more years with a modified no-trade clause, Andersson might be the odd man out (which is crazy when you think about it).

https://theathletic.com/348157/2018/...and-wildcards/

[GioforPM]

/\ Fair trade. Andersson might become the better player in the long run but he's unproven. Kapanen has game. PPG in the AHL, pro-rated 14-16 goals in the NHL last year with limited ice.

[Toonage]

I wonder if the Flames would have to add to make that happen?

Also makes things interesting so far as keeping the defensemen people might be concerned about losing. The Flames could move forward with a young RW and keep both Hamilton & Brodie on the roster.

[dammage79]

Call me crazy if you want but I'd rather move Fox. But if it took Andersson to get Kapanen, I think I'd be alright with that. I'm a big Kapanen fan.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

/\ Fair trade. Andersson might become the better player in the long run but he's unproven. Kapanen has game. PPG in the AHL, pro-rated 14-16 goals in the NHL last year with limited ice.

And I still pass. I think Andersson's upside is too high and the game continues to evolve into high end puck moving D men as a must have. I like Kapanen but not for that price.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Good. I hope they pay Marner 9m, Matthews 11m and Nylander 8m.

It's going to be in that range. Probably more like $11 million for Matthews and both Marner and Nylander in the range of $6.5 to $8 million.

[Ashasx]

I wouldn't trade Andersson. He's looked good in terms of the eye test, and his underlying numbers support that. He will likely be a very good NHLer, and with Giordano not getting any younger, we need to hope that somebody like him or Valimaki can eventually help fill the void.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

/\ Fair trade. Andersson might become the better player in the long run but he's unproven. Kapanen has game. PPG in the AHL, pro-rated 14-16 goals in the NHL last year with limited ice.

Ugh... No thanks. Brodie for Kapanen maybe...

[gunnner]

Marner + Kapanen for Hamilton

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I wouldn't trade Andersson. He's looked good in terms of the eye test, and his underlying numbers support that. He will likely be a very good NHLer, and with Giordano not getting any younger, we need to hope that somebody like him or Valimaki can eventually help fill the void.

Agreed. Anderson has done everything the flames have asked him to do over the last 3 season in order to improve. He's definitely coachable. If you have seen any of the mic'd up sessions with him, he's a good talker both on and off the ice. Funny. The kind of guy that's well liked in the dressing room, helps keep the mood light. With the plethora of other guys that we have that we could trade, I wouldn't be in a rush to move Anderson.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Toronto fans are at the height of their arrogance right now, so they actually don't know much of anything outside of their little bubble.


Any GM worth their salt is going to put a high premium on getting a 24 year old 6'6 top pairing dman that skates like the wind and scores a lot of points while still having high shot suppression.


I guarantee you if the Flames called Toronto up and said Marner or Nylander for Hamilton, Toronto wouldn't be able to fax the papers in fast enough.

But according to Leaf fans Nylander is worth more than Hamilton and our 2019 1st. The thing is even when they have been a bunch of losers (which they still are) they have been ridiculous and arrogant. As someone who lives in SW Ontario Leaf fans are unbearable, even the media is ridiculous and overblown.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

But according to Leaf fans Nylander is worth more than Hamilton and our 2019 1st. The thing is even when they have been a bunch of losers (which they still are) they have been ridiculous and arrogant. As someone who lives in SW Ontario Leaf fans are unbearable, even the media is ridiculous and overblown.

I second that notion.

[SportsJunky]

I agree with the sentiment of keeping Andersson. He impressed me this year. Seems like he has a high ceiling. Probably higher than Kapanen although it's hard to compare forwards vs defencemen.

Still, something has to give in my opinion. Treliving has a nice problem but it is a problem. He, IMO, needs to move at least one Dman to bring in a top 6 forward. I'd like it to be Brodie or Stone+.

[ComixZone]

I'm not into trading Andersson for a RW'er 1 for 1.

There's a premium on defencemen, especially offensively inclined ones. If we're looking at moving Andersson for the likes of Kapanen or Sprong, I think the Flames should be getting back a sweetener, like a 2nd round pick to Sprong or a 1st round pick to Kapanen. Sprong had a very impressive AHL rookie season, at a less important position. Kapanen however just completed his 3rd AHL season though and was not as impressive at that level than Sprong or Andersson - but his 9 points in 38 games at the NHL level is nothing to put your nose up at.

Centres > Defencemen >>> Wingers

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, I am fairly certain that Kane remains in SJ, and I still wonder if he would be worth the cost of the UFA contract he will sign this summer. He looked awesome when the trade occurred with Buffalo, but also really faded in the playoffs, scoring only one goal in his last six games.

Agree. Pretty volatile numbers. But apparently he had a separated shoulder. He fits with that group in SJ (i'm not being sarcastic either).

[Bunk]

The only way I'd trade Andersson is if you think signing Fox next summer is a mortal lock. If so, I'd consider it.

2019-2020

Gio-Hamilton
Valimaki-Hamonic
Kylington-Fox

Brodie, Stone and Kulak traded.