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Old 05-01-2018, 08:56 AM   #81
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It had to of been after hours.
That's a busy place. If you fell and yelled someone would hear you pretty quickly.

You could probably even tough it out for a few hours until the mall opened. Then yell.

Guessing the guy fell and was fatally wounded, or there was drugs/alcohol which wouldn't help.

I was trying to think of a situation where you wouldn't be found. I also don't suspect there are any large voids in the walls anywhere as it would be a poor use of space. Im guessing said person was crawling around in the ceiling, falls head first and is knocked out. Never comes back to as he is propped in an upside down position and the blood flow to the head keeps him out until he passes.

Any situation that doesn't involve being knocked out from the moment you fell doesn't make sense. I bet that bathroom doesn't go more than 15 hours straight without being used.

I also wonder how they found out that a body was in there!
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:06 AM   #82
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I was trying to think of a situation where you wouldn't be found. I also don't suspect there are any large voids in the walls anywhere as it would be a poor use of space. Im guessing said person was crawling around in the ceiling, falls head first and is knocked out. Never comes back to as he is propped in an upside down position and the blood flow to the head keeps him out until he passes.

Any situation that doesn't involve being knocked out from the moment you fell doesn't make sense. I bet that bathroom doesn't go more than 15 hours straight without being used.

I also wonder how they found out that a body was in there!
I'm not very familiar with commercial construction, but in residential, sometimes there is a utility wall to accommodate plumbing (such as up against an exterior wall). I could see perhaps a utility void if maybe a men's and women's washroom were back to back. Such a void would not be very wide, I would think. Maybe a foot. Probably just barely enough for a person to get in to, and have a hell of a time getting out of.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:06 AM   #83
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The news said a maintenance guy found him when he went to fix a toilet which wasn't flushing.

So, I think he probably removed that metal plate thingy to access the electrical or the sensor. Then.... surprise! Gross.

Pic below was tweeted by Lucas Meyer, 660 News.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcDDfx5U0AY5sqG.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/meyer_lucas/stat...06876883083264

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Old 05-01-2018, 09:12 AM   #84
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Can you imagine sitting there and a guy falls into the wall right behind you?
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I think Amelia Earhart would beg to differ.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43323944

Does this count as found?
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Can anyone think of a way this guy ends up in a wall legally? If he was a worker or repair man, there's no way he goes crawling through the ducts without someone knowing. His boss, the manager of the building, someone. Guys like that don't disappear without people looking for them, and following the trail that starts with the tool bag by the open duct.

So I think it's pretty likely that he was not supposed to be there. Whether he was a thief, a pervert, or simply homeless and cold, he won himself a Darwin award. I don't think this is the place to be scolding the internet for lack of sympathy or the possibility that the family is reading it. Dumass kills himself - internet laughs.
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I was trying to think of a situation where you wouldn't be found. I also don't suspect there are any large voids in the walls anywhere as it would be a poor use of space. Im guessing said person was crawling around in the ceiling, falls head first and is knocked out. Never comes back to as he is propped in an upside down position and the blood flow to the head keeps him out until he passes.

Any situation that doesn't involve being knocked out from the moment you fell doesn't make sense. I bet that bathroom doesn't go more than 15 hours straight without being used.

I also wonder how they found out that a body was in there!
I would guess he died of asphyxiation from having his chest solidly compressed in a tight immovable space. The classic examples are burglars found in chimneys.

Sounds like an awful way to go. Imagine being in total darkness unable to yell loudly for help as you slowly suffocate, while the last things you hear and smell are mall patrons repeatedly defecating 1 foot from your face.
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I was trying to think of a situation where you wouldn't be found. I also don't suspect there are any large voids in the walls anywhere as it would be a poor use of space. Im guessing said person was crawling around in the ceiling, falls head first and is knocked out. Never comes back to as he is propped in an upside down position and the blood flow to the head keeps him out until he passes.

Any situation that doesn't involve being knocked out from the moment you fell doesn't make sense. I bet that bathroom doesn't go more than 15 hours straight without being used.

I also wonder how they found out that a body was in there!
It's very likely there is a void space behind the toilets. Wall mounted toilets require space for the tanks within the walls. The void space could also be used to run plumbing lines which could be a decent size in a large commercial building. That said the void could be around 12". So certainly plausible for a situation you are describing.
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"Behind" a wall would be accurate.

It was a room. A constructed void created at the time of last renovation. There was a mattress (bed) in there. Also a full sized piano and a guitar. The man was living in this void and gained access through a roof hatch.

There are horrible pictures floating around that I'm betting the security guards who work for Vic20 will be fired for distributing.
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"Behind" a wall would be accurate.

It was a room. A constructed void created at the time of last renovation. There was a mattress (bed) in there. Also a full sized piano and a guitar. The man was living in this void and gained access through a roof hatch.

There are horrible pictures floating around that I'm betting the security guards who work for Vic20 will be fired for distributing.
I call BS. Anyone squatting behind a wall is obviously a drummer.
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"Behind" a wall would be accurate.

It was a room. A constructed void created at the time of last renovation. There was a mattress (bed) in there. Also a full sized piano and a guitar. The man was living in this void and gained access through a roof hatch.

There are horrible pictures floating around that I'm betting the security guards who work for Vic20 will be fired for distributing.
I can believe everything but the full size piano, like baby grand or full size grand piano.


Like how does that even get in there?
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So, let me get this straight...

Jokes about a dead cat, completely unacceptable.
Jokes about a dead person, totally acceptable.
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"Behind" a wall would be accurate.

It was a room. A constructed void created at the time of last renovation. There was a mattress (bed) in there. Also a full sized piano and a guitar. The man was living in this void and gained access through a roof hatch.

There are horrible pictures floating around that I'm betting the security guards who work for Vic20 will be fired for distributing.
As morbid as the story ends, this is absolutely fascinating if true. I have no interest in seeing these alleged pictures, but it would be very intriguing to hear much more about the who/what/how of this man in the box.
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Really? I love this board and have been coming here daily for over 10 years but I've never once considered it a hilarious group. There are a lot of posters who are intelligent and I appreciate reading their viewpoints but I've never once considered this a funny place.
Well this thread certainly supports your opinion.

I think it used to be funnier than it is now. Fotze was maybe the funniest poster and he was delorted. MMF was good too, surprised he hasn't been let back in. The tone here has definitely shifted over the years.
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So, let me get this straight...

Jokes about a dead cat, completely unacceptable.
Jokes about a dead person, totally acceptable.
dead cat?
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I read a plumber saying that between both bathrooms there is a maintenance cavity so plumbers could perform maintenance on the toilets.

I can't imagine it's big enough for a piano. How did he get it through the hatch? Are there safe versions of these pictures anywhere?
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Can anyone think of a way this guy ends up in a wall legally? If he was a worker or repair man, there's no way he goes crawling through the ducts without someone knowing. His boss, the manager of the building, someone. Guys like that don't disappear without people looking for them, and following the trail that starts with the tool bag by the open duct.
Certainly, it's pretty easy. People get fed up with their 'current life' and up and leave [situation] rather frequently. Calgary has roughly 10 people reported Missing a day,

Most of those start with "They didn't come home at the proper time."

When the investigation would get around to work, it'd most likely ask people when they last saw the person involved. "I saw him around noon, but not after. He usually says goodbye to me, but not always. He was having a rough day, may have just left to go to the bar or something."

People storm out of work all the time. It's also not a crime to be "Missing" and to take off and start everything over (usually).

It'd be a long time before, if ever, the investigation got around to "Did he accidentally drop into a wall and die." He'd most likely be found by the building maintenance staff before then...which would solve the investigation.
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So, let me get this straight...

Jokes about a dead cat, completely unacceptable.
Jokes about a dead person, totally acceptable.
Let me address this one.

- The cat thread was started by somebody (understandably) upset after having been an active participant in the cat's death.
- We had several reported posts about the cat "jokes" so we were able to address it quicker.
- Nobody has reported any posts in this thread. So the first I saw of the posts were this morning. Not sure if/when any other mods saw them. Sometimes I see a post and think it's a little off colour, but it's late at night, nobody else has reported them, and the tread seems to be somewhat self moderating.

Bottom line, I don't think those posts are appropriate. For here at least. However now we have to ask, do I spend the next 15 minutes going through posts and deleting them? What about the replies and/or the self moderation? Or do I spend the last 15 minutes of my lunch break going into a thread where somebody has asked for advice on a subject that I have some experience?
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Certainly, it's pretty easy. People get fed up with their 'current life' and up and leave [situation] rather frequently. Calgary has roughly 10 people reported Missing a day,

Most of those start with "They didn't come home at the proper time."

When the investigation would get around to work, it'd most likely ask people when they last saw the person involved. "I saw him around noon, but not after. He usually says goodbye to me, but not always. He was having a rough day, may have just left to go to the bar or something."

People storm out of work all the time. It's also not a crime to be "Missing" and to take off and start everything over (usually).

It'd be a long time before, if ever, the investigation got around to "Did he accidentally drop into a wall and die." He'd most likely be found by the building maintenance staff before then...which would solve the investigation.
Now that you mention it, my uncle disappeared on my aunt and cousin 35 years ago without telling her he had gambled away all their money. Two days later, bailiffs showed up and foreclosed the house. My aunt had no idea. 10 years later, my mom ran in to him at a pub and gave him hell. Too bad he didn't fall in a wall.
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so instead of affectionately calling this place CP, should I just start calling it PC instead?

I want to know more about this mystery room AND read the funny puns that come with it.
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