[News] Flames hire Bill Peters as the franchise's 19th head coach

[dino7c]

There are people on here that would rather the flames suck so they can say I told you so than to be proven wrong and the Flames to have a strong season.

[Buff]

I just don't know. I'm not sold on Peters, but like I said before, he isn't the super cool option behind door #1. Maybe that option wasn't right for the team. I don't know. I'm uncertain about this because he isn't somebody I know anything about. I know Vigneault, I know Sutter. TBQH, I'm not sure Sutter would have been the right man to coach this roster. Vigneault? Maybe, maybe not.... and that's where I'm at with Peters. Maybe, maybe not.

I do know that I have a better feeling about Peters now than I did about Gulutzan in 2016. There is still question marks with this potential hire but from all I've been reading the past couple of days, Peters may have some attributes that this team needs that Gulutzan was lacking.

[AC]

Originally Posted by dino7c

There are people on here that would rather the flames suck so they can say I told you so than to be proven wrong and the Flames to have a strong season.

Absolutely, and it's not just a select few either.

It really blows my mind... just seems so mentally exhausting to me.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Cant wait for the flames to suck again next year under new coaches and for people to realize on here we simply dont have a good enough team

Go watch soccer.

[Macindoc]

Agree with most of what Calgary4Life said. Hopefully Peters is able to adapt and use the strengths of the personnel he has here, or it could be the end of the line for Treliving.

My earlier critical posts were largely a reaction to Carolina fans' criticisms that he coaches a possession game that mostly relies on taking lots of low percentage peripheral shots and has a tendency to give up odd man rushes due to how rigidly players are positioned. I was hoping for a high-tempo, aggressive forechecking system, and these descriptions sounded eerily familiar, as did the criticisms that he rarely uses challenges or time outs.

I am still not a fan of the hiring, but if the Flames go ahead with it, I welcome Peters and will offer my support unless proves that he doesn't deserve it.

[Strange Brew]

Listened to XM radio’s NHL channel on the way home from work and they basically said what many here have said. Peters is highly thought if, but they couldn’t really explain why as his record has been lousy. They felt that Carolina had good talent and underperformed but didn’t really hone in on the goaltending issues.

Anyway I don’t need to approve of the coaching hire and I don’t know much about the guy. I do like it better than I ever liked the Gulutzan hire as getting whacked after only 2 seasons in Dallas was always a red flag. Peters clearly seems to be more in demand than Gulutzan was at the time.

I’m not sure we see massive roster changes this summer. I suspect organization wants to see how some of these guys do with a hard ass coach.

[JohnnyB]

Honestly, the thing that concerns me the most about the hiring is the possibility that Treliving simply has a model of what he believes a coach should be, that GG was as close as he could get to that model last go round and that Peters will just be more of that model. This would be consistent with Treliving's personality I think. He has a plan, knows what he wants, is sticking to it and is willing to pull the trigger and execute in making deals to realise it.

If GG was a good representative of BT's plan last go round, by sticking to it I fear we will see more years of boring hockey. I hated how the Flames played over the last two seasons. Not even primarily for the team's record as much as for how boring they became to watch and how much the team character turned into something that doesn't inspire me to cheer for them.

I don't know much about Peters, and I will hope for the Flames to become a fun, exciting, fast team with great character under him as a coach if he is indeed hired. The thing is, based on BT's previous choices and what I've heard about Peters, I'm not seeing much to make me expect this will be the case.

[wired]

If Peters is the coach, I see a huge drop off of fan support if the team falters. AV should be the one they go after.
Sad to see the talent wasted.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

...I’m not sure we see massive roster changes this summer. I suspect organization wants to see how some of these guys do with a hard ass coach.

I bet the Flames pick up another top-six forward over the summer. I am not convinced that Treliving entered this season with the roster he wanted, and when asked about what kept him up at night he confessed that he worried the Flames would not score enough.

I think that last summer he prioritized goaltending, then the second-paring of defensemen, and was never able to complete the trifecta. I bet he makes changes to the forward group this summer.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Honestly, the thing that concerns me the most about the hiring is the possibility that Treliving simply has a model of what he believes a coach should be, that GG was as close as he could get to that model last go round and that Peters will just be more of that model.

Would Treliving even have had any interest in Gerard Gallant if he were a available when we hired Gulutzan? Gallant seems to fall into that category of old fashioned coach that’s not driven primarily by analytics. He seems to be doing okay down in Vegas though...

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by AC

Absolutely, and it's not just a select few either.

It really blows my mind... just seems so mentally exhausting to me.

The irony is that it is exhausting to you because you care. And they want badly enough for the team to do well that they care.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Honestly, the thing that concerns me the most about the hiring is the possibility that Treliving simply has a model of what he believes a coach should be, that GG was as close as he could get to that model last go round and that Peters will just be more of that model. This would be consistent with Treliving's personality I think. He has a plan, knows what he wants, is sticking to it and is willing to pull the trigger and execute in making deals to realise it.

If GG was a good representative of BT's plan last go round, by sticking to it I fear we will see more years of boring hockey. I hated how the Flames played over the last two seasons. Not even primarily for the team's record as much as for how boring they became to watch and how much the team character turned into something that doesn't inspire me to cheer for them...

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If Treliving really believed in Gulutzan as a coach, then why did he not stay the course?

[joejoe3]

When Hartley got canned, instead of going after boudreau, BT went and got GG.

When GG got canned, instead of going after AV or D.Sutter, BT went and got BP.

... wait, BT and BP, I see the relationship now *mindblown*

[Barca]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

When Hartley got canned, instead of going after boudreau, BT went and got GG.

When GG got canned, instead of going after AV or D.Sutter, BT went and got BP.

... wait, BT and BP, I see the relationship now *mindblown*

maybe AV declined?

[djsFlames]

Just don't know what to say about this..... We're coming off the most disheartening season that I can recall and the GM has indicated that he wants to press forward with the same philosophy that has brought us a borderline unwatchable on ice product, but with a couple tweaks I guess.

Just bring in a very solid powerplay coach please and thank you. At least grant us that little peace of mind.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I bet the Flames pick up another top-six forward over the summer. I am not convinced that Treliving entered this season with the roster he wanted, and when asked about what kept him up at night he confessed that he worried the Flames would not score enough.

I think that last summer he prioritized goaltending, then the second-paring of defensemen, and was never able to complete the trifecta. I bet he makes changes to the forward group this summer.

I bet he is reluctant to trade a major roster player to do it. Maybe UFA. Or maybe a lower tier defenseman a la Stone plus a prospect.

[Stay Golden]

The good things I see about Peters vs Glen Gilbert.

Peters will be 100 % more vocal during games than Treliving's last fired was.

Peters will deploy a forecheck and the forwards stick to it.

I am fairly confident by Peters personality that if Johnny gets roughed up there will be payback delivered.

Brouwer will hopefully not see anymore time on the PP.

We can remain hopeful that the next asst coach that is hired to run the PP gets it right. We had Zero chance with Cameron.

If Peters really wants to win over Bradley's critics he will gain much popularity if he rips that A off Brouwer's chest.

And most importantly the last fired name won't be mentioned in the 2018-19 season.

[SportsJunky]

I love the fact that Peters is not a coach that coddles the players. There were definitely some passengers on the Flames last year. Sounds like Peters is a guy who will put a quick end to that kind of thing.

[oldschoolcalgary]

well, the truth is BT has a philosophy that he believes in... and while GG didn't pan out, it wouldn't nor should it, make him make wholesale changes to that philosophy.

While people may disagree with that approach, he has been given the mandate by the ownership to pursue implementing that concept.

BT isn't an idiot... obviously the believes that Peters will succeed and undoubtedly, he also knows that his job is riding on whether Peters is successful or not.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If Treliving really believed in Gulutzan as a coach, then why did he not stay the course?

Changing pieces but sticking to the plan. Blaming the individual and replacing them rather than blaming the approach and considering a need to change that.