[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Tyler @akaRCN
14s
. @SportsnetSpec tells @Bob_Stauffer that he's heard Glen Gulutzan will be back in CGY.


CP meltdown commence in 5....4......3......2......1.....

You mean the Pro-Oiler shameless media troll Spector?

Yeah that doesn't surprise me at all. He predicts and speculates anything that would bring joy to Oilers faithful, whether it's realistic or not, so of course he's going to say he's heard that.

Seriously wouldn't surprise me if he came straight here in hopes of getting to admire his own troll job.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Tyler @akaRCN
14s
. @SportsnetSpec tells @Bob_Stauffer that he's heard Glen Gulutzan will be back in CGY.


CP meltdown commence in 5....4....3....2....1....

If that is the case, I am not buying any tickets for next year. Games were boring for the most part.

[Hockeyguy15]

Spector trolling Flames fans?

[ResAlien]

Well rando twitter Tyler reporting something from an oilers homer conversation seems like a solid source. I’m all in on freaking out.

[Nsd1]

Has Spector been right about anything Flames related?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by VilleN

What does BT do after he fires GG and it turns out there isn't a bonafide, tried and true, NHL coach available? Hire another rookie and hope for better. Seems like a terrible plan, and IMO is a worse sin to commit than 'waffling'.

We don't have a tried and true NHL coach now.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Firing GG only when a replacement has been found and an agreement in place would be ideal. You're right VilleN, don't want to be left without a chair when the music stops.

Personally I'm not buying that. Replacing a coach is as much about changing the dynamic than purely finding a "better" coach.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Locke

1. The coach has failed. (Making the playoffs seems like a given, he didnt = fail)
2. GM is twiddling his thumbs. No decisions have been made.
3. Advanced stats are totally over-analyzed. Our 'advanced stats' put us as one of the best teams in the league, and yet we didnt make the playoffs. So maybe the advanced stats are a huge load of hooey.

I didnt forget the question-mark on that sentence.

Who cares about the availability of who they want to hire? If GG is here or not does that change anything?

If he'd been fired already they'd have released it so he could look for new work.

If ownership is so cheap they just want to keep the guy thats already being paid then that pretty sends the message. Coaches are not immaterial, which is why they're being paid so much now.

I'm not saying that Treliving is pacing and shaking in fear of a decision, but 'evaluating everything' and taking forever to do it is very much the sign of analysis paralysis.

OK.

I'd hope that a hockey ops group would go a little deeper than your 1,2,3 analysis, but what ever floats your boat.

Sorry to get in the way of your "I have everything figured out" parade.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by zamler

We don't have a tried and true NHL coach now.

And? What should BT do if he fires GG and there isn't an NHL coach available?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

Has Spector been right about anything Flames related?

And beyond that, anything Flames related that came through the grapevine to him before any of the media guys based around and covering the Flames?

Sounds like poppycock.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by VilleN

And? What should BT do if he fires GG and there isn't an NHL coach available?

Play the long game. Build the organization up where we do become a go to destination for top coaches. Unless you think the status quo is the right direction going forward. How has that worked out for the past 30 years?

[nik-]

Some of you are giving Spector exactly the reaction he wants.

Why would anyone believe that shill?

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by VilleN

And? What should BT do if he fires GG and there isn't an NHL coach available?

Boy if we’ve gotten to the point that there are literally zero available NHL head coaching candidates what a time to be alive eh? Damn, fired Gulutzan and now there’s no one left.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by zamler

Play the long game. Build the organization up where we do become a go to destination for top coaches. Unless you think the status quo is the right direction going forward. How has that worked out for the past 30 years?

Ok... that doesn't answer my question though. If BT fires GG and there isn't an NHL head coach available, what should BT do?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bingo

OK.

I'd hope that a hockey ops group would go a little deeper than your 1,2,3 analysis, but what ever floats your boat.

Sorry to get in the way of your "I have everything figured out" parade.

Its been 2 years!

[djsFlames]

I'd put more stock into a random in the Orange Julius line's parrot.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Ok... that doesn't answer my question though. If BT fires GG and there isn't an NHL head coach available, what should BT do?

Hire GG back because apparently he's the last NHL coach available in the foreseeable future.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Boy if we’ve gotten to the point that there are literally zero available NHL head coaching candidates available what a time to be alive eh? Damn, fired Gulutzan and now there’s no one left.

What are you talking about? There is a pretty short list of potentially available NHL (as in, had success in the NHL) coaches. Peters, AV, Sutter, Trotz (maybe), Carlyle (maybe). None of which BTW, are guaranteed to want to a job coaching the Flames. So, it's a simple question, if BT fires GG today and a bonafide NHL HC isn't available, what position does that put BT into?

[Table 5]

The main issue I have with Peters, is that instead of finding examples to demonstrate his successes, we're already looking for impediments that can be used to excuse his failures. It just kind of feels like Gulutzan 2.0.

It doesn't have to be this hard. Look for and hire coaches who have already got the job done at the NHL level. Coaches with playoff success, coaches with regular season success, coaches who win.

This team needs proven leadership, not more ifs and buts.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by nsd1

has spector been right about anything?

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