12-03-2006, 02:32 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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7-0 Giants.....Manning needs a big game or that NY media machine is going to start chewing him up big time.
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12-03-2006, 02:33 PM
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#582
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
LOL..Gramattica misses a FG...yeah nice move there Billy boy.
God i hate the Cowboys and their coach and the whole overhyped machine they have become.
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Ya don't screw witha team on a roll, no matter how much you don't like that stupid kicker.
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12-03-2006, 02:34 PM
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#583
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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I think he certainly is in the bottom of the league of starting QB's.
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The statistics say otherwise.
How anyone can call this guy near the bottom of the league in QB's is mindboggling.
He isnt the one giving up the yardage and points on defense.....
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12-03-2006, 02:37 PM
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#584
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
So by this I surmise you believe Favre to not be an effective QB....yes?
If so...why?
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Well no I am not saying he is infective because he still is, but let be honest they can’t go on forever and right now I think most would agree that the packers are in a rebuilding stage they aren’t looking for wins they are looking to develop players like AJ hawk, or Aaron Rogers its like you said they are youngest team in the league and if those rookies can develop enough over the next 2, 3 years in the pathetic NFC they could become playoff contenders
Look all over the league if there was ever a season to start a rookie QB it’s this one, just look around the league every where you turn a new rookie is given an opportunity and most are succeeding
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12-03-2006, 02:38 PM
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#585
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Farve is there best chance to win right now, but the Pack aren't going anywhere this year so I would think it would be in their long term best interests to use the remaining season to groom/figure out their future QB situation.
That said, Rodgers looks to be the future but he is out for the season, so they may as well let Brett ride off into the sunset, guns slinging.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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12-03-2006, 02:43 PM
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#586
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Originally Posted by J pold
Well no I am not saying he is infective because he still is, but let be honest they can’t go on forever and right now I think most would agree that the packers are in a rebuilding stage they aren’t looking for wins they are looking to develop players like AJ hawk, or Aaron Rogers its like you said they are youngest team in the league and if those rookies can develop enough over the next 2, 3 years in the pathetic NFC they could become playoff contenders
Look all over the league if there was ever a season to start a rookie QB it’s this one, just look around the league every where you turn a new rookie is given an opportunity and most are succeeding
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What is your point? The Packers should start Todd Bouman there backup?
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12-03-2006, 02:44 PM
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#587
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Farve is there best chance to win right now
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Which is exactly why he SHOULD be starting.
With a young team like they have, there is so much to learn about competing in the NFL, especially at the QB position. It wasn't hurting anything or anyone to have Rodgers watching for a 2nd season from one of the best to EVER play the position.
Favre wanted to play, he gave his team the best chance to win.....it was a no-brainer to allow him to start and finish the season.
The only benefit of him retiring this year would of been to free up some salary cap, but the Packers have stated they wont play the FA game to the extent some teams do, wishing to build through the draft instead. Not a bad philosophy IMO...look at the top teams around the league year after year....how did they get there and stay there?
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12-03-2006, 02:47 PM
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#588
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by flames_1987
What is your point? The Packers should start Todd Bouman there backup?
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You should read all of a discussion not just on post
I stated at the being of this season they should have started Rogers obviously he is hurt now, but I am speaking in retrospect
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12-03-2006, 02:55 PM
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#589
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn
I think Shanahan is great. Starting a rookie QB when you are in a race for a playoff spot. As a Chief fan I coudn't be happier. Thanks Mike.
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I think the NFL is great. As a Bronco fan, the only other thing I could ask for is for KC to play Cleveland 16 times a year.
Go Broncos!!
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12-03-2006, 02:56 PM
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#590
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Franchise Player
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Anyone a bears Fan
Rex's starts from Minny
6/19 34yrds 0 TD's 3 INT
Against the 31st ranked past defense in the league!
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12-03-2006, 02:56 PM
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#591
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Which is exactly why he SHOULD be starting.
With a young team like they have, there is so much to learn about competing in the NFL, especially at the QB position. It wasn't hurting anything or anyone to have Rodgers watching for a 2nd season from one of the best to EVER play the position.
Favre wanted to play, he gave his team the best chance to win.....it was a no-brainer to allow him to start and finish the season.
The only benefit of him retiring this year would of been to free up some salary cap, but the Packers have stated they wont play the FA game to the extent some teams do, wishing to build through the draft instead. Not a bad philosophy IMO...look at the top teams around the league year after year....how did they get there and stay there?
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The other benefit would be to give the QB of the future some experience. 2006 is a dead end season for Green Bay, now would be a good chance to look at the future.
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12-03-2006, 03:21 PM
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#592
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
The statistics say otherwise.
How anyone can call this guy near the bottom of the league in QB's is mindboggling.
He isnt the one giving up the yardage and points on defense.....
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QB rating seems to say he is. Unless there are more than 38 teams in the league, but you watch more than I do. I just see the INTs and crappy passes on the highlights.
I don't think it is his fault they are a bad team, I said no QB would win with these guys so if the fans are happy they might as well go with Favre.
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12-03-2006, 03:29 PM
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#593
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: N/A
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This is sad, Miami is playing like themselves again down 17-7 at the half to the Jags.
Miami needs a miracle to win this game and stay in the playoff race, they got a nice result from KC, a win here puts them a game back, but there not playing like they want it.
Lets see what adjustments can be made at the half
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12-03-2006, 03:29 PM
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#594
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Parcells cheering on the 4th down stop.
Will he be back next year, or is he ready to pack it in (again). I think earlier in the season it was a bigger question, but he looks like he is revitalized and having fun again.
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—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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12-03-2006, 05:47 PM
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#595
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by moon
QB rating seems to say he is. Unless there are more than 38 teams in the league, but you watch more than I do. I just see the INTs and crappy passes on the highlights.
I don't think it is his fault they are a bad team, I said no QB would win with these guys so if the fans are happy they might as well go with Favre.
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He is 7th in the NFL in passing yards
he has thrown fewer INT's than Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Grossman, Pennington Brees, etc...
He has thrown more TD's than Vick, Roethlisberger, McNair, Plummer, etc and sits 9th in the NFL in that category.
His passer rating is 13th among QB's that have attempted 300 passes or more, 3rd among those attempting 400 or more.
Yeah he sucks.
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12-03-2006, 05:58 PM
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#596
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Retired
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Originally Posted by transplant99
He is 7th in the NFL in passing yards
he has thrown fewer INT's than Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Grossman, Pennington Brees, etc...
He has thrown more TD's than Vick, Roethlisberger, McNair, Plummer, etc and sits 9th in the NFL in that category.
His passer rating is 13th among QB's that have attempted 300 passes or more, 3rd among those attempting 400 or more.
Yeah he sucks.
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Geez Tranny, talk about skewing the stats in your favor.
Who cares if he is 3rd amoung those attempting 400 or more BECAUSE there are only 3 QBs who are in that position. Of course, you neglected to mention that.
Currently he sits 19th in the league in overall passer rating amoung starting QBs.
I'm not in the catigory of person who wants to label him as a piece of crap, but come on, you know better than to argue like that.
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12-03-2006, 06:03 PM
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#597
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Geez Tranny, talk about skewing the stats in your favor.
Who cares if he is 3rd amoung those attempting 400 or more BECAUSE there are only 3 QBs who are in that position. Of course, you neglected to mention that.
Currently he sits 19th in the league in overall passer rating amoung starting QBs.
I'm not in the catigory of person who wants to label him as a piece of crap, but come on, you know better than to argue like that.
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Kiss my butt.
They are facts...pure and simple. What is skewed exactly?
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12-03-2006, 06:03 PM
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#598
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by transplant99
He is 7th in the NFL in passing yards
he has thrown fewer INT's than Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Grossman, Pennington Brees, etc...
He has thrown more TD's than Vick, Roethlisberger, McNair, Plummer, etc and sits 9th in the NFL in that category.
His passer rating is 13th among QB's that have attempted 300 passes or more, 3rd among those attempting 400 or more.
Yeah he sucks.
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Pretty selective stats.
He has lots of yards because they are always behind and he can rack em up in the second half.
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12-03-2006, 06:04 PM
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#599
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Kiss my butt.
They are facts...pure and simple. What is skewed exactly?
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what is skewed is the cherry picking of stats.
Overall he is #19 in rating, in a team that should be able to help his ranking by giving him easier yards in the 4th Q.
The pack is downright dead in 06, time to look at the future.
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12-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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#600
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames in 07
Pretty selective stats.
He has lots of yards because they are always behind and he can rack em up in the second half.
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WTF???
What is selective??
So 2nd half yds dont count as much as 1st half yds? I was not aware of that. 
Even if that mattered...why are they always behind? Could it be because of the defense? Or is Favre, who apparently shouldnt be playing, the fault?
Thats the discussion here...who id GB better off with...Favre or Bouman?
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