[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Listening to the Fan now. Odd they're promoting Headlines @ 3:40 along with this.

Isn't Gulutzan scheduled for 4:00?

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So, all of them?

Oh cmon some franchises are known for being more patient than others. Look at the amount of coaches this team has had since D. Sutter. That wouldn't cross your mind as a coach when considering a team with an above average roster?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Isn't Gulutzan scheduled for 4:00?

Yes.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Isn't Gulutzan scheduled for 4:00?

I’m getting worried

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Oh cmon some franchises are known for being more patient than others. Look at the amount of coaches this team has had since D. Sutter. That wouldn't cross your mind as a coach when considering a team with an above average roster?

If you sign a 5 year deal for 27 million, what do you care?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I’m getting worried

Why? I still believe it was completely unrealistic for anyone to expect an announcement before the end of the week at the earliest.

Mind you, I also will be only moderately surprised if Gulutzan is not fired.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Oh cmon some franchises are known for being more patient than others. Look at the amount of coaches this team has had since D. Sutter. That wouldn't cross your mind as a coach when considering a team with an above average roster?

I get what you're saying but how many other franchises have done the same? Its the old adage, a coach is hired to be fired. Some do it sooner than others or maybe more often than others but I don't think the Flames are worse than any other franchise. In the past 10 years they've fired Keenan & Hartley before their contract expiration date. How many other teams fired 2 coaches in 10 years?

And via that way of thinking, how many coaches looking for work now are concerned over coaching dismissals from more than 10 years ago?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by colbym72

If I am a head coach that is "elite" I fear coming into an organization that has a history of firing coaches. We want all these amazing people to come rescue our team, but do they want to come here? Or will they wait for another opportunity? It takes two to tango. Maybe BT has reached out to those guys and they said no. If you don't have a replacement, you might as well keep GG and tell him to replace his assistants.

Did Todd McLellan refuse the Oilers even after they turfed their coaches twice as fast as we have?

Nope. Money talks.

If the Flames are willing to pony up for an elite coach they'll probably be happy to come here.

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Did Todd McLellan refuse the Oilers even after they turfed their coaches twice as fast as we have?

Nope. Money talks.

If the Flames are willing to pony up for an elite coach they'll probably be happy to come here.

Fair, but basically my point is its easy to point and say "I want this guy" but the decision has to be mutual, and BT maybe be handcuffed by the Flames being historically cheap on coaching

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Why? I still believe it was completely unrealistic for anyone to expect an announcement before the end of the week at the earliest.

Mind you, I also will be only moderately surprised if Gulutzan is not fired.

Timing just feels like it could be an announcement of an extension...

I really hope my gut is wrong on this but i just don’t know when we’ll ever be rid of GG

[Toonage]

960 saying that GG will be talking about his trip to Saskatoon, and "maybe" some hockey. So, same stuff as this morning on Hockeycentral at Noon on SNW.

[The Boy Wonder]

Nm

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I get what you're saying but how many other franchises have done the same? Its the old adage, a coach is hired to be fired. Some do it sooner than others or maybe more often than others but I don't think the Flames are worse than any other franchise. In the past 10 years they've fired Keenan & Hartley before their contract expiration date. How many other teams fired 2 coaches in 10 years?

And via that way of thinking, how many coaches looking for work now are concerned over coaching dismissals from more than 10 years ago?

Before Q, the Hawks went though a coach every year for 10 years, except Brian Sutter held on for 3. A total of 8, counting Pulford. For a team with three cup wins, the Pens have gone through coaches a fair bit. 4 coaches in 10 years.

[Toonage]

Thanks Gio. I should have said how many teams have fired * only* 2 coaches in 10 years but your example illustrates my point. Flames are probably close to the norm than the exception.

[midniteowl]

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Before Q, the Hawks went though a coach every year for 10 years, except Brian Sutter held on for 3. A total of 8, counting Pulford. For a team with three cup wins, the Pens have gone through coaches a fair bit. 4 coaches in 10 years.

Excellent point. I am just throwing darts at the board and theorizing as to why this team hasn't had an "elite" coach. I am probably wrong with this theory, but still my point is these guys have to want to come here, and there has only been one firing so far right? Maybe someone like AV is waiting to see what other openings there are.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Excellent point. I am just throwing darts at the board and theorizing as to why this team hasn't had an "elite" coach. I am probably wrong with this theory, but still my point is these guys have to want to come here, and there has only been one firing so far right? Maybe someone like AV is waiting to see what other openings there are.

No need for theories. We pretty much haven't hired elite anything (though I was a pretty damn good concessions cook c. 1991) since Fletcher, give or take a Darryl here or there...

[direwolf]

Glen on the Fan right now, talking about his visit to Humoldt.

[dammage79]

Good interview with Gully regardless of desires to see him not coach the Flames any further.

Obviously a good human being who takes community and being apart of it very seriously. Tons of respect on a human level.

[Badgers Nose]

I want Doug Gilmour to be our coach.

jk