[PGT] Flames fall apart again ... Lose 5-2 to the Avs

[dino7c]

never mind not worth it

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Flash Walken made a great point in the GT about official abuse in hockey and how it is systemic starting at the minor leagues.

I have coached and watched all manner of youth sports. For some reason, hockey officials, in my experience, receive the greatest vitriol from parents, coaches, fans and players. My son participated in the silver sticks tourney and I saw numerous ejections.

This absolutely causes a problem in developing officials. Would love to hear an informed perspective on this.

Yes, I 100% agree. I all but stopped officiating kids except in spring hockey just for the cash. The kids treat officials like crap because they see the parents and the coaches doing it. It spreads and it's that way in adult hockey too. It's a huge problem and it's frustrating being a referee because of it.

[zamler]

I'm gonna go thank all the "wrong" posts just to mess with peoples minds.

[TenaciousC]

Our entire D core outside of Giordano is a bunch of pretenders right now....I dont feel comfortable with any of them on the ice and its quite sad given our supposed “depth”

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Otto29

Wait a minute....from what I am reading, the Flames are now mathematically eliminated from the playoffs because of a couple of bad games. Do we have psychics on these forums? How could this be possible? </sarcasm >

Goaltending was poor, the team has to learn to hit the net and reffing that has to be the worst I've seen. That was the game. Move on

You're right. The Flames are practically home & cooled for a playoff spot. There is zero reason for concern of any kind.

[AC]

Here's Gulutzan's post game video:

https://twitter.com/user/status/969092369088880641

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by TenaciousC

Our entire D core outside of Giordano is a bunch of pretenders right now....I dont feel comfortable with any of them on the ice and its quite sad given our supposed “depth”

What does it say that our supposed 'depth' suddenly forgot how to play over the last 2 years?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Comixzone and Wonder Boy will thank this post, just wait

Man let it go. Let’s discuss the actual game.

I honestly felt glass was much more effective than Stewart. 8 has been fairly underwhelming personally, and I actually though glass had a ton of jump. Seemed to give the flames a toughness factor early before the unraveling.

[Robbob]

I had a bad feeling about the game when Glass got a penalty for hitting, although Backlund getting the shorty helped that. I do hope quotes are posted as I really want to know the refs explanation for tossing Gaudreau let alone giving him an embellishment penalty for getting or almost getting harpooned in the throat. Tossing a teams best player in a game that has playoff race implications is just crazy. It went from Flames should be going on a short 2 man advantage to best player being tossed. Just crazy.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

You're right. The Flames are practically home & cooled for a playoff spot. There is zero reason for concern of any kind.

There is a difference between concern and calling the season after every loss

personally I think if Smith comes back they have a chance

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Two guys with Bennett in their avatar are constantly defending the guy no matter what. He was not the problem or the solution this game.

He has NOT proven to be a top six nhler by any metric...hope he does one day but give your head a shake. For a top 4 pick he has had a very poor career so far. NINE GOALS!

You refuse to engage the Bennett conversation on any level other than the surface. You disregard circumstance as having any value in player development and levels of success - so whatever. Enjoy your passionate displeasure with the player, but not everyone has to agree with you. You want to make a case for why he's so awful, dive a bit deeper and let's have a conversation. Let's talk about the history of the 4th overall pick, the strength of the draft year, why his draft spot has coloured your own personal level of expectations for the player - I'm into it, so are others. But to constantly just hear "he isn't scoring enough! bust! bust! bust!"...whatever. I'm done with that conversation.

Also, yeah - my avatar is of Bennett, he's a Calgary Flame - and he's pulling the monkey off his back. It's a fun picture. You seem to be saying I have a certain bias (which hey, I've even admitted to - because I want to see all young developing Calgary Flames succeed), big whoop. I'm a fan of the team and the players.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by dino7c

There is a difference between concern and calling the season after every loss

personally I think if Smith comes back they have a chance

Predicting that they won't make the playoffs is not the same as saying they have no chance at all...

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Can we get off the Bennett talk in this thread? Ffs, a poster asked boy wonder what he graded Benny at and he answered. End of story.

Bennett isn’t why we lost. Why is it still being discussed?

I can't thank this post enough, THANK YOU!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by AC

Here's Gulutzan's post game video:

https://twitter.com/user/status/969092369088880641

I wish the team would win for this guy.

[home_sweet_dome]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

It's not a flip flop. It's about making a smart bet when there's money on the line.

Do i think the flames can win 5 of their next 6 given the opponents? Absolutely.

Am I willing to put money on them without any odds? No because that's a horrible bet for me to make.

bet was win 5 of 6 OR make the playoffs. You are always so optimistic and berate posters who aren't yet when you get a chance to back it up you say it's a terrible bet and need odds.

Call it what you want but you went from eternal optimist to realist really quick once money became involved

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I wish the team would win for this guy.

Not sure if serious??

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by scotty2hotty

Not sure if serious??

Totally. I like him and wish he would succeed.

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Totally. I like him and wish he would succeed.

Fair enough.

I'm sure he's a good human being. I just hate him as our coach and wish he was gone months ago.

[dino7c]

I hope all Flames fans wish the team would win for the coach, like his style or not

I think those who place all the blame on the coach will be in for a sad season next year if the coach is fired and no major personal moves are made.

On one hand most people say the forwards are not good enough...laughably so on the right side and in the bottom six.

On the other hand this coach is terrible for being the Flames being a bubble team with so much talent.

Which is it?

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by AC

Here's Gulutzan's post game video:

https://twitter.com/user/status/969092369088880641

I am more annoyed at the ref after listening to that. No part of officiating should be staring down a coach after a penalty call is made. That is brutal.