[Rumour] Are the Flames eyeing a couple names on the Sabres?

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Bennett doesn't have anywhere near the value that's talked about here

Bennett for ROR is fair value????

Some people are stuck in 2014.

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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

A 29 year old right shooting forward with career averages of 56 points per 82 games at 6 million / 4 years makes no sense? Who, despite being labelled as a product of Tavares, has 81 points in 125 games since leaving Tavares' team...

right... no universe does that make sense.

$6M for a one-dimensional player that is going to be 30 in April. Brutal idea.

[DynamRyan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And there it is again. Sources, or admit you don't have any and you're talking out your ass.



You have been asked multiple times and you just keep ignoring everyone.



IT's ban-hammer time.

Seconded. If you don’t supply sources and continue spewing speculative #######ry, get the hell out of here.


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[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Fischy13

I’m going to take a shot at this one. It might be too big though...

To Calgary:
Kane (with extension 5.5/5years)
ROR retained 25%
Lehner

To Buffalo:
Bennett
Fox
Gilles

Breaking it down, Fox easily gets you UFA Kane, the little extra gets you Lehner for Gilles, Bennett for ROR and retained $ a wash.

Lehner, because Smith is out for the year. Only thing I can’t place is Jankowski in this unless he’s part of the package or replaces Stajan at 4L center once Stajan hits 1000 games

Breaking it down it makes zero sense, you're adding about $13 million to Calgarys cap. I also would't want to pay $9 million for goalies next year.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And there it is again. Sources, or admit you don't have any and you're talking out your ass.

You have been asked multiple times and you just keep ignoring everyone.

IT's ban-hammer time.

don't feed the trolls.

pretty clear he's just pulling stuff out of his ass

[Insane_Flame]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And there it is again. Sources, or admit you don't have any and you're talking out your ass.

You have been asked multiple times and you just keep ignoring everyone.

IT's ban-hammer time.

Where did I say i have a source on the Kane trade? Say I do, why would I have to divulge that info if I never explicitly claimed to have one? Is it my fault people rile things up in their own minds and get a special feeling from reading a few words from someone they don't know? The hockey world is a tricky business. Even I can be surprised sometimes.

[Bunk]

Maybe Stone + Jankowski + Gillies + Poirier or Kylington

For

RoR (25% retained) + Kane (extended) or Reinhart.

Wild ass guess.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Bennett doesn't have anywhere near the value that's talked about here

Bennett for ROR is fair value????

No kidding.

It's humorous to read people saying what they are.

I like the guy, and I also think he might become a decent player at some point, but right now he is truly just "a guy".

Every team in the league has a similarly ranked player within their organization.

[calgarygeologist]

I wouldn't mind Okposo but $6M is pretty expensive.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

Getting warmer with the Kane +2nd. I cannot say for certain but I think you best forget about Bennett. But anything is possible. Brad has proven me wrong before.

New number, who dis?

[Insane_Flame]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

New number, who dis?

Yeah. Brad as proven me wrong. I never said anything about proving my source wrong.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Yea, 45 points last year

45 points in 65 games prior to a freak medical accident. A 57 point pace. How many Flame are on a 57 point pace?

on pace for 13 goals this year and maybe 50 points,

Shooting a career low 7.7% on a team with arguably the worst puck moving blue line in the NHL. While being a RHS forward on a team with too many of them between himself, Eichel, and Reinhart filling overlapping offensive niches, a non-issue on the Flames who haven't had a top six skilled RHS forward since Iginla and whose future hopes lie in Matthew Phillips and Eetu Tuulola.

all for 6 Million as he enters his 30s for four more years.

You are describing every top six forward contract over 30, minus two years.

You and I have very different ideas of what makes sense.

Well, I mean, if the idea of, in some universe, simultaneously dropping Brouwer and adding a legitinate top 6 forward does not make sense to you, that's cool.

In a few years we're going to be spreading some big money around to younger players

And thus any trade for Okposo or ROR or even Kane would obviously have extranneous salaries like Stone, Brouwer, and/or Frolik going the other way.

and that contract has the potential to be Brouwer level bad.

Well, no. You are comparing what is probably a solid first liner to what was probably at his absolute best a solid 3rd liner, who are signed through to the same age at the end of their deals. Even factoring in a sudden decline you'd have a serviceable top 9 forward in the final years, which is a worst case scenario.

[Zevo]

Jesus ####ing christ people. Stop replying to the guy and just report him.

[Insane_Flame]

Originally Posted by DynamRyan

Seconded. If you don’t supply sources and continue spewing speculative #######ry, get the hell out of here.


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So I guess everyone gets an opinion except me.

[Yoho]

Hold, Hold, Hold.

All of this stuff reaks of disaster.

[Ottoman Empire]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

But the internet IS around now and the smart ones don't post stupid stuff.

At least he works out while on holidays though.

I loved when this pic first came out and one of our posters here had the brilliant quip about Kane's play right after he signed: "is that new contract weighing on his shoulders?" comment. Pure gold.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

Where did I say i have a source on the Kane trade? Say I do, why would I have to divulge that info if I never explicitly claimed to have one? Is it my fault people rile things up in their own minds and get a special feeling from reading a few words from someone they don't know? The hockey world is a tricky business. Even I can be surprised sometimes.

Look at how you're wording things:

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

Saying it is looking for certain that Kane will be in a Flames sweater and Bennett has been the main piece.

If you're saying you don't have a source, why would you word something that way?

[Saint Troy]

ROR would be a massive get.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

there's always some ####### around deadline day posting what he knows to be bull#### tweets or making rumours up.

Those posters should be dealt with harshly.

Sometimes they are legit though. There is a time-tested solution - Insane can PM a mod confidentially to confirm his or her bona fides, if they exist

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

So I guess everyone gets an opinion except me.

This issue people have is you're not presenting the information as an opinion, you're presenting it as a fact and have provided no sources or connections to back up the facts.