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			It's always nice to be reminded that when it comes to ownership, we could have things a lot worse
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:19 PM
			
			
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			 Some kinda newsbreaker! 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
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			02-23-2018, 05:21 PM
			
			
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				It's always nice to be reminded that when it comes to ownership, we could have things a lot worse 
			
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Just a quick reminder that since the 2004 lockout, the Senators have:
 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in Finals 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in round 3  
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missed the playoffs 4 times (5 including this year)
 
Since 2006, the Flames have:
 
Lost in round 2 
Missed the playoffs 6 times (7 maybe this year)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:24 PM
			
			
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				Just a quick reminder that since the 2004 lockout, the Senators have: 
 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in Finals 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in round 3  
and  
missed the playoffs 4 times (5 including this year) 
 
Since 2006, the Flames have: 
 
Lost in round 2 
Missed the playoffs 6 times (7 maybe this year) 
			
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You're right! The Flames should petition the League for a move to the Eastern Conference!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-23-2018, 05:41 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Flash Walken
					 
				 
				Just a quick reminder that since the 2004 lockout, the Senators have: 
 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in Finals 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in round 3  
and  
missed the playoffs 4 times (5 including this year) 
 
Since 2006, the Flames have: 
 
Lost in round 2 
Missed the playoffs 6 times (7 maybe this year) 
			
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Senators won those playoff games in spite of Melnyk.
 
Ownership doesn't build a team, they just set the parameters through which the team is built.  Over that stretch, the Senators have been a budget team and Flames have been at or near the salary cap.  You could argue that the Sens would have had even more success had they been able to spend to the cap.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:43 PM
			
			
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			How brutal is it for these families and players right now.  You just got traded.. PSYCH.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:50 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Flash Walken
					 
				 
				Just a quick reminder that since the 2004 lockout, the Senators have: 
 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in Finals 
Lost in Round 2 
Lost in round 3  
and  
missed the playoffs 4 times (5 including this year) 
 
Since 2006, the Flames have: 
 
Lost in round 2 
Missed the playoffs 6 times (7 maybe this year) 
			
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That's great, but what does that have to do with ownership? You listed factors that reflect management.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:50 PM
			
			
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				That's great, but what does that have to do with ownership? You listed factors that reflect management. 
			
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say these two sentences to yourself out loud.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:53 PM
			
			
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				That's great, but what does that have to do with ownership? You listed factors that reflect management. 
			
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Generally speaking, ownership usually has the final say on all major moves.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 05:56 PM
			
			
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			And picks the management.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 06:27 PM
			
			
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				I bet it's Reaves. 
			
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			02-23-2018, 06:34 PM
			
			
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				Well, you nailed that one, Scorp. 
			
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Are you allowed to do that?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 06:43 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2018, 06:52 PM
			
			
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			Once Reaves leaves the Pens, they will be in the market for some toughness 
 
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			02-23-2018, 06:57 PM
			
			
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				Once Reaves leaves the Pens, they will be in the market for some toughness 
 
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We might have to throw in Poirier as the sweetener.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2018, 07:02 PM
			
			
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				Are you allowed to do that? 
			
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			02-23-2018, 07:04 PM
			
			
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			Reeves and Engelland?    VGK gearing up for a playoff match up with the Ducks.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-23-2018, 07:51 PM
			
			
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