2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheKurgan

With Dion out of Ottawa I wonder if the Sens would be in the market for a vet dman to fill that hole? Would Stone waive his NTC to go play with his Brother?

If Treliving could put together a package of Stone or Brodie plus a prospect/pick for Hoffman I would be game. Once everyone is healthy I think we would have a much better depth in our bottom 6.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hoffman
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Ferland
Versteeg - Stajan - Brouwer

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie/Stone - Hamonic
Anderson - Kulak

Smith

If Brodie/Stone refuse to waive to go to Ottawa you could move Hamilton straight up for Hoffman and hope Brodie can find his game again with Giordano. I don't really want to move Hamilton but you got to give to get.

Both Hamilton and Stone will be very important pieces if we are going to make the playoffs. I think Stone is criminally underrated on these boards. I am fully on board with moving Brodie providing there is a plan in place to fix the hole he leaves. I wonder what we would have to add to Brodie to get Hoffman and Oduya.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Both Hamilton and Stone will be very important pieces if we are going to make the playoffs. I think Stone is criminally underrated on these boards. I am fully on board with moving Brodie providing there is a plan in place to fix the hole he leaves. I wonder what we would have to add to Brodie to get Hoffman and Oduya.

I really wouldn’t add much of anything. I personally think that Brodie has more value than Hoffman.

Stone is extremely movable in my opinion. Andersson replaces him easier than any of our left shots replace Brodie. Now if GG wasn’t married to the L-R pairings it wouldn’t be an issue just play Stone with Hamonic but that would not happen under GG

[kukkudo]

Wonder if Bobby Ryan can be had for 50% retained.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Ryan
Versteeg - Stajan - Brouwer

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Stone - Kulak

[Vinny01]

I personally do not want Bobby Ryan at $3.75M for the next 4 years. He is only getting worse.

[Ozy_Flame]

Bobby Ryan on an expiring contract with money retained, yes. Four more years? Absolutely not.

[kukkudo]

He is that bad eh haha

[rhino]

I for 1 would love to see a Tkachuk - Bennett - Ferland line.... at least for a few games to see the crap they would stir up.

[Harry Lime]

Calgarypuck has become all about busts and declining players and how anyone who doesn't break out by 21 is a failure. In another thread a name was mentioned, as an uber-bust, and that was Dal Colle.

Seriously, if we could get Dal Colle in the system, he could be a real player with another year or two of development.

I wonder how many sniping opportunities are really out there.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'd love to see Okposo come in at the deadline to help on PP and improve depth on RH side. Not sure what the cost would be on him though. Doesn't seem to be doing great in Buffalo and was brought in there for free and has an expensive cap hit...so maybe more affordable than we think?

I wonder if Kulak+goalie or Stone+goalie might be enough. Would also free up room for Andersson.

Full NMC but maybe he’d waive to get out of Buffalo. He would be a nice fit but 5 more years at 6m is pretty tough to swallow. It’d have to be cheap. After a slow start that is probably partly attributable to whatever happened at the end of last season, he’s been pretty good. I think he’d fit nice on either of the top two lines and produce pretty good. But again, contract is an issue. You can’t give up much of anything unless a good portion of salary is retained, which I doubt Buffalo would do.

[jonkaupp]

Never mind, after reading that it was a concussion that put him in the icu I don’t think there’s anyway you can touch Okposo without a TON of salary retained. I hope the guy stays healthy but it’s way too risky to put that much cap space at the whims of a previous severe concussion. They usually get worse as the player ages.

[TheKurgan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Both Hamilton and Stone will be very important pieces if we are going to make the playoffs. I think Stone is criminally underrated on these boards. I am fully on board with moving Brodie providing there is a plan in place to fix the hole he leaves. I wonder what we would have to add to Brodie to get Hoffman and Oduya.

I agree that Hamilton and Stone are our 2 best Dmen after Gio. I just have a really hard time seeing Brodie waving his NTC to go to Ottawa. Not even sure if Stone would waive his to play with his brother. Hamilton has the most value, and doesn't have a NTC so you can ship him anywhere and I think he could get you a Hoffman, or maybe even a little more.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheKurgan

I agree that Hamilton and Stone are our 2 best Dmen after Gio. I just have a really hard time seeing Brodie waving his NTC to go to Ottawa. Not even sure if Stone would waive his to play with his brother. Hamilton has the most value, and doesn't have a NTC so you can ship him anywhere and I think he could get you a Hoffman, or maybe even a little more.

Oh I am sure you can get Hoffman for Hamilton but why would you? Hamilton imo is a core piece, you don't move him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Oh I am sure you can get Hoffman for Hamilton but why would you? Hamilton imo is a core piece, you don't move him.

I would want Stone for Hamilton, not Hoffman. Even then probably not. Top pairing Dman > first line winger (in general).

[dammage79]

If you get max retention on Ryan for the duration of that contract, and say get him for a sack of lays chips, I wouldnt cry about it.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If you get max retention on Ryan for the duration of that contract, and say get him for a sack of lays chips, I wouldnt cry about it.

If Ottawa eats $3M per on the rest of the deal Ryan will have a 4 years at $4.5M which would become the new Brouwer before his Jersey was available for sale.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Wonder if Bobby Ryan can be had for 50% retained.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Ryan
Versteeg - Stajan - Brouwer

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Stone - Kulak

You’re kookoo! Lol

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Oh I am sure you can get Hoffman for Hamilton but why would you? Hamilton imo is a core piece, you don't move him.

I’m only moving Hamilton if we are getting Stone back, not Hoffman.

[Tbull8]

I was listening to Bob Mckenzie's podcast, and he brought up a couple names that might be available. Thoughts on bringing in Nyquist or Tatar? Tatar still has 2 years at 5.3 and Nyquist has 1 year at 4.75.

Sounds like the cost would be somewhere around a second and a prospect. Flames could try for 2 prospects maybe?

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I was listening to Bob Mckenzie's podcast, and he brought up a couple names that might be available. Thoughts on bringing in Nyquist or Tatar? Tatar still has 2 years at 5.3 and Nyquist has 1 year at 4.75.

Sounds like the cost would be somewhere around a second and a prospect. Flames could try for 2 prospects maybe?

Those are exactly the type of players I would prefer the Flames to get rather than going big game hunting. Versteeg likely won't be back next year and this would be a good power play replacement/3rd line skill replacement. The acquisition cost is reasonable (the equivalent of a 2nd and a 4th would likely get it done in terms of prospects. I am really surprised (and maybe it is a lack of information), that the Flames have scouted Ottawa so heavily and not explored this avenue a bit more.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’m only moving Hamilton if we are getting Stone back, not Hoffman.

I am still not moving him and I love Stone as a player but we are talking a young stud top pairing RHD, you don't move those.