Not the classiest thing I've seen but I will say it's way easier criticising someone for not handling losing well when you're on the winning side. Everyone's been a sore loser at some point and probably far worse things have been said/done than what Andersson did.
It's pretty hard to judge a guy by ONE act. Especially when none of us know him personally (maybe). How would anyone here feel if everyone judged you by only one of your acts in one of your not so fine moments.
Who cares if he tossed his medal into the stands. He's 19...let him be.
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It makes me want that guy on my team even more to know he doesn't give a crap about a trophy for second place.
And to those clutching their pearls about the sanctity of the medals, I'm sure you were just as offended all those times that Team Canada was blown out in those bronze medal games that they showed up hungover and completely unwilling to even play in.
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I like that raw emotion. That was an authentic moment in a world where sports stars are
Building brands at 14.
We all celebrated McDavids look of dread when the Oilers won the draft. One because it was hilarious but two because it might have been his only break in character that he was human.
It was unsportsmanlike, but is was human behaviour and a reminder that these are people with raw emotion. This offense and outrage at nothing is the same spectrum of behaviour that leads fans to threaten Maroon for taking a penalty.
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Embarrassed as a Canadian if they did that .... slight exaggeration ? They didn’t burn a flag at Center ice !
The mellow dramaticness here is hilarious. They lost , he was upset, and 2nd place was a loss to him. This wasn’t a plucky underdog team finishing 2nd.
I’ve played on teams that finished 2nd and guys through the silver in the garbage after the game.
I don’t even really see it as unsportsmanlike. He stayed on the ice , repeated the winning team, and then got rid of his medal . Big deal
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Embarrassed as a Canadian if they did that .... slight exaggeration ? They didn’t burn a flag at Center ice !
Nope, it's still embarrassing. You represent not only yourself but your country when you play in these tournaments. It's no different when a Flames player does something really stupid and we get embarrassed as fans.
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I don't feel sorry for that guy one bit, what a d-bag.
He's not expecting you to feel sorry for him. F that medal, the kid clearly wanted to win and was upset about it. I'm sure from experience you've felt similar emotions in a similar situation to call him a d bag though. Surprise surprise not every country holds the same values as Canadiens.
Pretty sure the Rangers are even more certain they got the right guy in the draft. Anderson has been the captain of every team he's been on for a reason - he'll go through a wall for his team. He'll probably be captain of the Rangers someday too. I know I was diasapointed when he didn't make it to the Flames pick.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
"He's 19 cut him some slack" ... I was on a team that lost the city finals in Midget once, and a teammate of ours threw his silver into the ref locker room. Whole team was ashamed and thought it was the stupidest thing we had ever seen. For what that's worth. Which isn't much... but there is no excuse to act like that, age or not.
It's not like it was a last place medal. You want your captain to be proud of the accomplishments his team has made (see Valimaki's closing comments), not have the attitude of "well I already have silver, so coming in second place in this tournament full of great teams doesn't mean anything".
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"Disappointed kid overeacts to losing"...more at 11.
Many need to look in the mirror about the way they have reacted to disappointment in their life, before this 10 page discussion on what a 19 year old should have done. Did he react well...no. Is it worth 10 pages of discussion about how terrible this is and how you never would have done the same thing in your pee wee equivalent? Absolutely not.
The real news is that Canada won their first gold medal in a while with a balanced team that was built from the defense out, yet scored 17 goals in 3 elimination games. Great work boys!!
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I find it incredible that you get more criticism for "poor sportsmanship" for throwing your medal in disappointment than for legitimate cheating.
The media should have put this guy against the wall that way:
"Disappointed kid overeacts to losing"...more at 11.
Many need to look in the mirror about the way they have reacted to disappointment in their life, before this 10 page discussion on what a 19 year old should have done. Did he react well...no. Is it worth 10 pages of discussion about how terrible this is and how you never would have done the same thing in your pee wee equivalent? Absolutely not.
The real news is that Canada won their first gold medal in a while with a balanced team that was built from the defense out, yet scored 17 goals in 3 elimination games. Great work boys!!
actually 5 pages.
simple solution, just award the gold medal...screw the silver and bronze Loser medals...nobody is happy with those.
I find it incredible that you get more criticism for "poor sportsmanship" for throwing your medal in disappointment than for legitimate cheating.
The media should have put this guy against the wall that way:
It makes me want that guy on my team even more to know he doesn't give a crap about a trophy for second place.
And to those clutching their pearls about the sanctity of the medals, I'm sure you were just as offended all those times that Team Canada was blown out in those bronze medal games that they showed up hungover and completely unwilling to even play in.
If there was going to be one poster on this site that would turn a despicable and childish act like that into a reason to want him on your team, it was going to be you.
Every competitive athlete hates to lose. No player wants a second place trophy.
But part of competitive sports is that sometimes you do lose. That's the way it is. When winning means something, not winning sucks. How we deal with those things tells a lot about who we are as people. And he showed that he is emotionally unready for the position he is in.
Acting like a petulant child doesn't make you 'competitive', it makes you a petulant child. Wanting a person on your team even more because they showed the maturity level of a 5 year old, is one bizarre take.
But then I noticed who offered it.
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WTF??? Cheating? That was a high stick, regardless of the head whip. Unfortunately, it's part of the game. Or do you need a reminder?
Yes, diving is cheating. A stick to the chest does not warrant pretending it hit your face by snapping your head back and covering your mouth. That's not even embellishment, it's downright diving. It definitely should not be part of the game and thankfully NHL has started to fine players for it.
I'm not defending Markstrom. He did some good embellishment in that game, although he did get run over a couple of times, which is also quite unsportsmanlike. But this isn't a contest of which team is the worst offender.
Not only is it disrespectful to Canada to act like that, but it's disrespectful to the rest of team Sweden who worked their asses off just to get into that game.
Saying that placing 2nd means nothing to you denigrates the accomplishments of the rest of the team. You'd have to think that this might be the crowning achievement from some of those players in their entire career, and to have their captain disregard that achievement makes it so that they will never be able to really enjoy it.
But it also is disrespectful to the rest of the teams playing in this tournament. You want to believe the Americans would have much rather played in this game than play for bronze. What about all those teams that didn't have a shot at a medal. You better believe they would love to have a shot at silver, let alone gold. I know what you'll say, it's about internal expectations. Fine, but then maybe Lias should have done more to win the game and looked at himself for the loss, rather than throw a tantrum.
But really this means that this kid cannot put his failures in context. Any rational person would simply say, "Well it was a very close game against an amazing opponent, and they scored a nice goal late, and we couldn't get it back in time. It's one game, and anything can happen when it's just one game." Then all you have to realize is that sometimes things go against you when you maybe deserve better, and that all you can control is your effort and preparation.
The fact that none of that was present in his post-game comments shows me that he lacks maturity. I know, "he's only 19", and yet there are other 19 years olds that show plenty of maturity. This is the kind of guy that is probably more disruptive to a locker room than helpful. You need guys that show camaraderie rather than individualism in a team game like hockey.
I'm not saying he's a robot and that he should feel no emotion, but there's a way to handle those emotions that show maturity, and this showed the exact opposite. It's an act that cries, "me, me, me, look how this is affecting me!" and it shows little regard to his teammates and the rest of the players in this tournament.
It's pretty shameful.
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