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Old 11-20-2017, 08:00 PM   #121
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All this talk about trading Backlund &/or Bennett..

Backlund is a huge part of our top 6. Jankowski is not ready to take over for him. You re-sign him because he bleeds Flames. If you're worried about capspace you find a way to ditch Brouwer or one of the top 5 d.

And trading Bennett when his value is low is ludacris, the 3rd line is generating chances and you know who is getting most of those chances? - Bennett. He's putting himself in good offensive positions. He isn't converting but if he continues to get chances that will come. The key is he is getting good chances! Backlund took time to develop, we should be patient with Bennett, he's younger than every forward on the flames except Tkachuk. Why give up now?

Our defence and starting goalie are set and out of the forwards I wouldn't move:
-Gaudreau
-Monahan
-Tkachuk
-Ferland
-Backlund
-Jankowski
-Bennett
-Frolik

Unless the offers are amazing and make our team better, now and in the long run, it makes no sense to trade these guys.

I wouldn't trade Versteeg or Jagr either as they are great veteran depth.

Ppl need to be patient with Bennett and remember how important Backlund is to this team. Trading either is crazing talk IMO.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:00 PM   #122
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Such a negative way to look at things.
I'd hope even although our top 6 is on fire that our gm is still trying to improve our team will.
Our top 6 is amazing imagine adding another piece toake it even better ?
Bennett needs to stay. You don't sell low. Ferland is over achieving so if anything ship him out if someone really wants trashy Kane here.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:14 PM   #123
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Bennett needs to stay. You don't sell low. Ferland is over achieving so if anything ship him out if someone really wants trashy Kane here.
So ferland has been over achieving for the past couple of years. But let's keep Bennett who hasn't lived up to one penny of his contract ?
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:23 PM   #124
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Bennett for Kane is not selling low. That would be Buffalo getting fleeced.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:35 PM   #125
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Who do they have that can fit on our second line?

I would like to see this next year, give Tkachuk a chance to be the boss on his own line;

Johhny - Monny - Ferly

Frolik - Backlund - xxxxx

Tkachuk - Jankowski - Bennett

Mangiapane - Dube - Hathaway

If we could just get a nice top 6 RW, I think we would be golden.

Also, I may switch lines 2 and 3 depending on how well they do.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:38 PM   #126
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So ferland has been over achieving for the past couple of years. But let's keep Bennett who hasn't lived up to one penny of his contract ?
You could put Bennett on that line and he would put up more points then Ferland.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:43 PM   #127
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Dave Cameron would know Robin Lehner from his coaching days in Ottawa. Have not heard anything just my thoughts on possible people Treliving could be looking at.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:44 PM   #128
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Girgensons for Lazar??
Maybe? I guess... Would rather another angle and have Lazar RW the 4th line. But then again Hathaway and Girgensons would be utter hell on earth for opposing teams.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:46 PM   #129
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Bennett for Kane is not selling low. That would be Buffalo getting fleeced.
in what world is Buffalo getting fleeced by trading an impending UFA with notorious office issues - possibly the most public in the entire league - for a 21 year old center with high pedigree who is signed to a 2 year bridge deal?
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I'd be careful with bigger names in Buffalo. Somethings off there, like Florida or Edmonton from years past. Maybe there's a Dubnyk or Cogliano that can be had for good value. But I'll be a bit cautious about upper roster players.
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Kane is a bit one dimensional but I think it's a dimension the Flames really need -- a fast, top line, shoot-first winger. And he doesn't back down to anyone. He's been scoring at a 40 goal pace for the last 90 games now.


Ferland: on pace for 33 goals / +2 / CF% 52

Kane: on pace for 43 goals / -5 / CF% 49

In addition, Ferland has achieved his totals while only receiving limited PP, an average of 1:58. Kane has an average PP TOI of 3:05. Not to mention, Ferland has overcome from a huge personal battle which really exemplifies his character and commitment. Kane is a cocky blowhard who only performs well when it suits him. I’ll take Ferland on the top line over Kane 10/10.
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:56 PM   #132
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I honestly don't think the Flames have to make any roster moves right now.
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Bennett for Kane is not selling low. That would be Buffalo getting fleeced.
I'm not trading Bennett for Kane any day of the week!
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Not only is Evander Kane a controversial figure, but what would the Flames need another LW for? We're fine with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett, Versteeg, Glass, plus any number of Ferland, F. Hamilton or a couple of AHL guys can play there.
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Follow up to my above post, because I didn't want to muddy the waters.

Shoot for the Moon trade :

Backlund, Lazar, Versteeg and Wotherspoon,

for

Reinhart, Buffalo 1st, Girgensons.

Would you do it?
Definitely done. Buffalo says no
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I honestly don't think the Flames have to make any roster moves right now.
The voice of reason.

Let's wait until they lose another one......
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Girgensons for Lazar??
What happened to Girgensons, for some reason I thought he was way better than a 4th liner.
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What happened to Girgensons, for some reason I thought he was way better than a 4th liner.
He looks to have really stagnated. Doesn't help that aside from O'Reilly, Eichel and Kane and maybe Ristolainen, the rest of that team is still hot garbage.
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in what world is Buffalo getting fleeced by trading an impending UFA with notorious office issues - possibly the most public in the entire league - for a 21 year old center with high pedigree who is signed to a 2 year bridge deal?
40 goals since last season, no off ice issues recently, 26 years old.

Bennett big underachiever, 14 goals since last year most ice time with no points to start the season.

I like Bennett alot. I want him to be better but after 3 seasons who really knows. Maybe he turns it on next year maybe he struggles to get 10.

Maybe the Flame get Kane and sign him. Maybe he has matured and put issues past him. Maybe not.

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I honestly don't think the Flames have to make any roster moves right now.
Given that GG likes to roll 4 lines I don't think it would be terrible to upgrade the 4th line.

Stajan, Lazar and F. Hamilton haven't really siezed a regular spot in the lineup so if you could add one more forward it might not be a bad idea, especially seeing Stajan struggle so mightily out there this season.

I know we got guys in the minors but I would prefer they marinate longer and be injury callups (Hathaway might be ready for a spot but we've seen a fair amount of games of him in the bigs and he's in a similar grouping as the 3 mentioned, and it seems a 4C is what we need).

Not a major issue as our top 3 lines look good but the time will come when we need a line that plays ~11mins a night contributes more regularly. Even if it's only getting chances, which the 4th line doesn't seem to be doing (Freddie was setup by Jagr on his chance and Versteeg is raking up PP points, rather than 5v5).
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