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Old 07-18-2017, 12:18 PM   #781
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I noticed it as being totally out of place, too. Certainly not Dion style. But I agree that it isn't a very good sentence. Bad enough Dion posts whole articles from hack Rebel contributors, but copying words and using them as your own? Shame.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:46 PM   #782
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Thought this was too well written to be posted by Dion.



http://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-s...ng-omar-khadr/


Two weeks detention for plagiarism.
He has a history of plagiarism. Not very fair to the writers.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:50 PM   #783
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I don't really think the lackadaisical objection by Joe Public is important, or problematic, but I find the empassioned debates from people who aren't educated on the issue can only come down to laziness/wilful ignorance or entitlement to outrage.
Yeah, I hear you. It's obviously an epidemic, because it's hardly confined to this issue. FML, try talking to people in BC about the oilsands. But it's a hard problem to navigate, because people are going to hear about some story, and they're inevitably going to have an opinion on it. It's really hard to draw the line and say, "you're entitled to your opinion, but not that strong an opinion", or "you're entitled to your opinion, but only as soon as you've engaged in X amount of work to fully understand the topic". That's my main point. I mean, how strong is too strong? How much reading do you have to do before you're entitled to engage in the debate?

Of course, I'm in a glass house throwing stones here, because I frequently get frustrated by the exact same thing you're annoyed with... apparently I'm in an uncommonly understanding mood today. Hopefully that goes away soon.
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It's not like I have to do heavy lifting to gather the facts on an issue, and it's not exactly difficult to have a measured approach when I'm not sure I understand the details.
Very good point, sir. If you can manage to understand the issue, then anyone can!

... I'm sorry I had to, you set that up too easily. But this does lead to a point: your politics are clearly left-leaning. Nothing wrong with that inherently, but it determines how you investigate issues, as it does with just about everyone. In this case, you went and found sources that took positions that align with your political preferences, and in this case, they were absolutely right. XYZ poster went and found some that aligned with their CPC orientation, and they were wrong. That's not to say the inverse won't be true on some other topic, even adjusting for differences in propensity for objective critical thinking. Another problem with humanity: we're not wired for even attempting to understand things.
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Can you also excuse people who note the problem of bias media while only posting clearly biased media?
No, but I wasn't trying to. I'm guessing you're talking about someone I have on ignore, but I do agree with you that this is just an example of what I was talking about above re: confirmation bias.
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You've got posters here, when served up plenty of information, just outright ignore it and instead make straw man arguments on how people who disagree with them are arguing in support of terrorism and al-Qaeda. If it's not lazy, it's mind-bendingly dumb.
I'd say more the latter, given the intense effort some of them put into it.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:14 PM   #784
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http://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-s...ng-omar-khadr/


Two weeks detention for plagiarism.
Guilty as charged. I liked the phrase and in hindsight should have put it in quotations along with a reference at the bottom of page to the authors name.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:53 PM   #785
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Guilty as charged. I liked the phrase and in hindsight should have put it in quotations along with a reference at the bottom of page to the authors name.
You've been called out before and continue to plagiarize people's work. This is not normal behavior.

This is another post where you blatantly plagiarized someone else's work and passed it off as yours.

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It isn't fair to the people whose work you're stealing.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:29 PM   #786
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Guilty as charged. I liked the phrase and in hindsight should have put it in quotations along with a reference at the bottom of page to the authors name.
I wouldn't call it a "phrase".
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:33 PM   #787
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God. Dion is weird.
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God. Dion is weird.
I think that's a little bit unnecessary. I'm not advocating for what he did, but why not just take the high road? Some already pointed out what he did and Dion admitted to it, I don't see what there is to be gained by piling on top of that.
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What the hell was Rempel thinking!? Why is she playing to Hicksville when her constituents are mostly well-educated and are capable of understanding why he was given a settlement. And why in that disgusting show with that disgusting human being?

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Old 07-18-2017, 11:06 PM   #790
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What the hell was Rempel thinking!? Why is she playing to Hicksville when her constituents are mostly well-educated and are capable of understanding why he was given a settlement. And why in that disgusting show with that disgusting human being?

Ms. Rempel is my MP and I'm truly embarrassed she would appear on Tucker Carlson's show. You would think she would have aborted the appearance after listening to the one-dimensional and partisan synopsis of the issue during the preamble to the interview.
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What a deceitful weasel:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...211294?cmp=rss

No mention of the Supreme court ruling, and framing it like the compensation was in some way related to the Spears, and not because his rights were violated. Yes, Michelle, there was a court ruling on this. Makes me so angry to have her represent Canada in this way. As if American Fox viewers aren't misinformed as it is, she goes and does this. Big help.
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What a deceitful weasel:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...211294?cmp=rss

No mention of the Supreme court ruling, and framing it like the compensation was in some way related to the Spears, and not because his rights were violated. Yes, Michelle, there was a court ruling on this. Makes me so angry to have her represent Canada in this way. As if American Fox viewers aren't misinformed as it is, she goes and does this. Big help.
It's almost as if this wasn't some kind of accident on her part but a component of a concerted effort to gain notoriety at the expense of the truth and reputation of Canadians. Almost as if representing Canadians in and out of her district was a secondary concern as compared to attention seeking and self-aggrandizement. Huh.

I'm sure it was probably just naivete on her part though, I mean, who's ever heard of Fox News or Tucker Carlson? Nobody in politics that I know has ever heard of them...
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It's almost as if this wasn't some kind of accident on her part but a component of a concerted effort to gain notoriety at the expense of the truth and reputation of Canadians. Almost as if representing Canadians in and out of her district was a secondary concern as compared to attention seeking and self-aggrandizement. Huh.

I'm sure it was probably just naivete on her part though, I mean, who's ever heard of Fox News or Tucker Carlson? Nobody in politics that I know has ever heard of them...
Exactly what I was talking about. It's a total embarrassment to our country for he own political gain.
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It would be great if the constituents of Calgary-Nose Hill held her accountable for this behaviour next election. Sadly, I don't think it's likely.
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It would be great if the constituents of Calgary-Nose Hill held her accountable for this behaviour next election. Sadly, I don't think it's likely.
Well, I'm sure the party will take steps to distance themselves from her.

Afterall, this can't represent the party line, can it?

...Can it?
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:41 AM   #796
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They have decided they are going to bang the hell outa this drum.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle35726278/

I hope it backfires spectacularly.
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The majority of Canadians, and certainly Nose Hill constituents, agree with her. What would they be holding her accountable for? Representing the views of her constituents?
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The majority of Canadians, and certainly Nose Hill constituents, agree with her. What would they be holding her accountable for? Representing the views of her constituents?
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I'm her constituent, though I didn't vote for her, I don't think it was necessary at all for her to go on that show for the purpose of what?

If her point had been to talk about how we are going to recover the $10.5 million from the US for torturing our citizen, I could go along with that.
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What a deceitful weasel:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...211294?cmp=rss

No mention of the Supreme court ruling, and framing it like the compensation was in some way related to the Spears, and not because his rights were violated. Yes, Michelle, there was a court ruling on this. Makes me so angry to have her represent Canada in this way. As if American Fox viewers aren't misinformed as it is, she goes and does this. Big help.
You should really be more informed about something before you jump to these wild conclusions - I guess this is what happens when you get your information from the Buzzfeed of Canadian news. She did specifically mention the court ruling regarding the rights violation and indeed stated that her preference as a legislator would be for the judiciary to rule on the matter rather than settlement. In no way did she misrepresent the facts of the situation.

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