Conceded the repeal and replace, but now he says they're going to do worse:
"In the coming days, the Senate will vote to take up the House bill with the first amendment in order being what a majority of the Senate has already supported in 2015 and that was vetoed by then-President Obama: a repeal of Obamacare with a two-year delay to provide for a stable transition period,"
That'll get the extreme right votes back in, but they didn't have support enough to do that to begin with, why should they have it now? The moderates won't vote for completely removing expansion if they wouldn't vote for reducing it.
they will absolutely lose the moderate GOP portion of the party if they repeal and have no replacement plan.
If they wait two years, I feel they will have heavy losses in the mid-terms and they there will be zero chance of a full repeal happening.
the WSJ editorial absolutely hammered the Trump White House on the Russia Hacking case.
The CBO score from January in the case of a full ACA repeal without a replacement is pretty damning.
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If a replacement plan isn’t implemented following the dismantling of the law, CBO estimates that 18 million people would become uninsured in the first year, and premiums would rise by 20 to 25 percent for individual policies purchased through marketplaces or directly from insurers.
Twenty-seven million people would become uninsured, CBO estimates, after the elimination of Obamacare’s Medicaid eligibility expansion and subsidies for insurance through Obamacare marketplaces. Premiums would then reach 50 percent, the report forecast.
By 2026, CBO estimates 32 million people would be uninsured and premiums will have doubled.
Repeal needs 60 to pass anyway so they obviously don't have that. Going with the nuclear option is insanity and possibly suicidal, and still could fail. Also kicks even more people off health care and probably sends other premiums skyrocketing. Dems need to rally behind single payer now and make that their pitch for the midterms, the window might never be more open.
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The mainstream media has done enough over the years to discredit themselves. They have really had it out for Trump (some of it deserving) but it has become quite the circus. He's beating them at their own game in a way.
First of all I don't think he's beating anyone at the moment. His attempts at constantly creating a distraction to draw attention away from certain issues are doing the opposite, he's overplayed his hand and more and more people are starting to see him for what he is. Secondly, it's one thing to discredit the media, it's another to consistently discredit certain media outlets while applauding other media outlets who are clearly reporting things in a biased fashion, and in some cases even proven to not be accurate.
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That's some pretty weak historical fact cherry picking on your part. If that's all it takes for you to compare Trump to Hitler and the GOP to Nazi's, I don't know what to say.
Again it was in reference the OP's specific examples in their question relating to how they got into power. Do I consider the GOP to be nazis? No. But I'm also not keeping my head in the sand regarding some of political tactics they are using.
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The other issue the GOP is up against is that the electorate is actually managing to learn what ACA actually does for them. Sure it's several months too late for my liking but that is what is now causing the GOP headaches with this. The moderate republicans and the ones likely in close re-election races are worried.
I said it at the time to my co-workers...you may think Obamacare will be terrible but I guarantee once your family and friends have experienced proper healthcare coverage they will not want to give it up. And that's what is happening.
The smart thing to do would the same thing that needs to be done on all major issues....bipartisan bills resulting in a government governing from the middle.
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Reports are coming out detailing deep connections between Trump's business empire and the Russian mob. Allegations include Trump used his properties to help Russian mobsters launder their illicit funds. MSNBC is showing this.
The other issue the GOP is up against is that the electorate is actually managing to learn what ACA actually does for them. Sure it's several months too late for my liking but that is what is now causing the GOP headaches with this. The moderate republicans and the ones likely in close re-election races are worried.
I said it at the time to my co-workers...you may think Obamacare will be terrible but I guarantee once your family and friends have experienced proper healthcare coverage they will not want to give it up. And that's what is happening.
The smart thing to do would the same thing that needs to be done on all major issues....bipartisan bills resulting in a government governing from the middle.
Yup.
That goes for almost anything. Once people receive it, you can't take it away. No party can take healthcare away from Canada. Even Stockwell Day's 'no two tier' healthcare plea... just the thought of it killed him. Or in europe, raising work hours, or raising the retirement age. Absolute killers.
The US can't do anything bipartisan. Fighting over healthcare, education, immigration... everything. US somehow needs a 3rd middle party.
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A Republican close to the White House who is also in frequent touch with the Hill said there is more than enough blame to go around.
"He was playing with a firetruck and trying on a cowboy hat as the bill was collapsing, and he had no clue," this top Republican told CNN this morning, mocking the "Made In America" week at the White House.
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Reports are coming out detailing deep connections between Trump's business empire and the Russian mob. Allegations include Trump used his properties to help Russian mobsters launder their illicit funds. MSNBC is showing this.
The other issue the GOP is up against is that the electorate is actually managing to learn what ACA actually does for them. Sure it's several months too late for my liking but that is what is now causing the GOP headaches with this. The moderate republicans and the ones likely in close re-election races are worried.
I said it at the time to my co-workers...you may think Obamacare will be terrible but I guarantee once your family and friends have experienced proper healthcare coverage they will not want to give it up. And that's what is happening.
The smart thing to do would the same thing that needs to be done on all major issues....bipartisan bills resulting in a government governing from the middle.
I think the problem is that it didn't help enough people. If you are in the narrow income range that gets full subsidies for premiums and also subsidies that keep the out of pocket expense low, then it is fantastic. The next income group up who get subsidized premiums, but not subsidized deductibles would be fairly happy I assume. People who benefited from expanded medicaid in some states are probably in favor as well.
But that's just not enough people who benefited to have enough impact on elections. People who buy their own insurance and don't qualify from any subsidies probably don't feel any better off now, and may feel worse off. People on employer plans weren't affected much, but like to unfairly blame Obamacare for rising premiums.
Obamacare would have probably been much more popular if the subsidies went up to higher income levels. Obamacare's biggest flaw is that it did nothing to lower overall health care costs. If they could have figured out some kind of tort reform to reduce malpractice costs and then it could have been very popular.
It's almost like the Affordable Care Act would have been more well received and appreciated had it been implemented as it was created in the first place. Wild.
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It's almost like the Affordable Care Act would have been more well received and appreciated had it been implemented as it was created in the first place. Wild.
Oh yeah, for sure. I don't understand why neither party is willing to try to tackle the absurd malpractice costs. There is probably enough money in that pot to make for good health care options for everyone and reduce taxes.
