06-21-2017, 08:35 PM
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#841
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Biggest surprise might be low # of goalies taken by Vegas.
Well played in terms of stockpiling picks and additional pieces.
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06-21-2017, 08:36 PM
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#842
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Calgary
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Look like sid was pissed when it was announced
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06-21-2017, 08:37 PM
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#843
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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As it sits right now....Vegas has just under 74 million in cap hits for the upcoming season.
Only Chicago has more.
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06-21-2017, 08:37 PM
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#844
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Someone thought Marchand was better than McDavid and Crosby this year?
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Probably the same homer who gave Torey Krug a second place vote for the Norris.
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06-21-2017, 08:39 PM
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#845
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Forwards for Vegas are better than expected but goalies and d-men are worse than anticipated.
Will be interesting to see how trades play out tomorrow
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06-21-2017, 08:39 PM
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#846
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krynn
Look like sid was pissed when it was announced
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I don't think he was pissed. He just didn't seem to care. The guy has 3 cups, 2 Conn Smythe's and won the Hart a couple of times already. I doubt he'll cry himself to sleep losing this one.
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06-21-2017, 08:42 PM
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#847
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Franchise Player
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Vegas will not trade the following: G Marc-Andre Fleury, F James Neal, D Derek Engelland, D Braydon McNabb and other players they picked and invited to show up to the Expansion draft. I also think they will keep some young guys like Reinhart, Pickard, Berube, Marschessault, Pulkinnen. The rest are all for grabs on trades including Methot and Emelin.
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06-21-2017, 08:42 PM
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#848
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
As it sits right now....Vegas has just under 74 million in cap hits for the upcoming season.
Only Chicago has more.
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But...Vegas should with 30 players.
The other teams are currently basing cap on 23 or less players.
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06-21-2017, 08:42 PM
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#849
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Why would McPhee trade one of his few offensive weapons? And what could the Flames possibly offer in return? He's already acquired 11 additional picks.
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Why would McPhee trade Neal? To get back premium young players, prospects or picks just like most of the deals he's made so far. Neal is an UFA after this season, VGK is likely to trade him this summer or by the deadline at the latest unless he actually wants to extend his contract
What could the Flames possibly offer in return? Earlier I speculated maybe a 2018 1st or 2019 1st. Maybe a package around Kylington. Dunno if it makes sense for us with Neal on an expiring contract. We have the assets to get him, but at what price?
Are you suggesting he doesn't want more picks? Cause that's silly talk. Clearly they want young players, prospects and picks as any building team should.
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06-21-2017, 08:43 PM
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#850
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Anybody here think Connor will ever win two Conn Smythes in a row?
Neither do I.
Crosby remains the most valuable and best player in the NHL.
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To be fair, the Conn Smythe should have actually gone to Kesse last yearl. He was a game changer for that run.
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06-21-2017, 08:43 PM
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#851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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So many third line players.
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06-21-2017, 08:45 PM
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#852
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saXon
To be fair, the Conn Smythe should have actually gone to Kesse last yearl. He was a game changer for that run.
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Not in my opinion.
Respect yours.
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06-21-2017, 08:45 PM
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#853
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Also - I'd rather have Vatenan or Lindholm than Theodore and Stoner.
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06-21-2017, 08:47 PM
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#854
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Also - I'd rather have Vatenan or Lindholm than Theodore and Stoner.
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No kidding. Theodore was hot garbage against us in the playoffs.
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06-21-2017, 08:47 PM
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#855
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Also - I'd rather have Vatenan or Lindholm than Theodore and Stoner.
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This is the case with a few of the trades Vegas made, but especially with Anaheim.
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06-21-2017, 08:48 PM
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#856
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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One would have to figure that the Knights will likely go with "foundational" type players with their picks to try and get players that could eventually emerge as cornerstone types, sort of like the Jets with Scheifele as their first pick.
If they keep #6, 13, and 15, I would not be shocked if they went with Glass or Middlestadt with their first pick, and then any of Petterson, Necas, Andersson, Kostin, Foote, or Liljegren that happen to fall to their next two picks as they have the highest upside of any of the guys from 7-15. If Kostin is available he will go to Vegas guaranteed. GMGM loves Russian players and already has a number of them in the organization.
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06-21-2017, 08:49 PM
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#857
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Also - I'd rather have Vatenan or Lindholm than Theodore and Stoner.
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If Vegas does not accept trade, Murray opens it up for Vaatenen and Lindholm to all NHL teams. Murray holds the cards and played it well.
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06-21-2017, 08:51 PM
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#858
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Also - I'd rather have Vatenan or Lindholm than Theodore and Stoner.
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Lindholm was protected and was never going to be available.
Did you mean Manson? I view Manson and Theodore as pretty close in value. I'd take both over Vatanen.
Also as pointed out before by SureLoss if the Ducks/VGK didn't work out a trade then ANA likely buys out Bieksa, trades Vatanen, protects Manson and Silfverberg and then VGK gets crap all.
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06-21-2017, 08:51 PM
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#859
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
If Vegas does not accept trade, Murray opens it up for Vaatenen and Lindholm to all NHL teams. Murray holds the cards and played it well.
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Murray wouldn't hold much leverage though.
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06-21-2017, 08:52 PM
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#860
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Murray wouldn't hold much leverage though.
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He would hold all the cards....because 20 to 25 teams would make serious offers for each player.
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