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		|  06-14-2017, 09:22 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tacopuck  I recommend anyone who is interested in this issue check out a documentary called "The Red Pill" by Cassie Jaye which explores the whole world of "mens rights" and the push back it receives fairly and unfairly from feminist activists. |  
You mean the movie that has been pulled from theatres  because activists don't want it shown?
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:24 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Matata  Keep killing yourselves, boys, ain't no one got time for your nonsense. |  
Keep griping about inconsequential campus chat groups on the internet. That will solve real problems men and boys face.
 
Unless of course you actually do something about this. If so, we're all ears.
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Same one. The film actually addresses that aspect of it too, pretty funny because if any of the people trying to shutdown the film actually watched it would see that their actions only make their cause look worse.
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:28 AM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  Keep griping about inconsequential campus chat groups on the internet. That will solve real problems men and boys face.
 Unless of course you actually do something about this. If so, we're all ears.
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You don't think pointing out systematic institutional and media bias against boys and young men is worthwhile? It seems to be regarded as tremendously worthwhile by other identity groups.
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:31 AM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tacopuck  Same one. The film actually addresses that aspect of it too, pretty funny because if any of the people trying to shutdown the film actually watched it would see that their actions only make their cause look worse. |  
Yeah no it's a whitewashing propaganda film for some of the worst people on the internet.
 
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				 Attacking the idiotic notion that men are undeserving of emotional support. |  
Well now you're just making things up. Anything else I didn't say that you want to attack?
		 
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  Keep griping about inconsequential campus chat groups on the internet. That will solve real problems men and boys face.
 Unless of course you actually do something about this. If so, we're all ears.
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wtf does this mean?
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  Yeah no it's a whitewashing propaganda film for some of the worst people on the internet. |  
lolwut? Have you seen it?
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:33 AM | #28 |  
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Yeah I have. Have you ever seen Paul Elam talk about women?
		 
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  Yeah no it's a whitewashing propaganda film for some of the worst people on the internet.
 
 
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Homelessness, suicide, depression are some of the core issues these groups are trying to address, you simply dismissed all of this in your post by implying that it's all just a waste of time and energy.
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:35 AM | #30 |  
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					Originally Posted by Matata  Homelessness, suicide, depression are some of the core issues these groups are trying to address, you simply dismissed all of this in your post by implying that it's all just a waste of time and energy. |  
Actually, I said their intentions are impure, not that the issues they are publicly jerking off over are a waste of time. 
 
Reading comprehension is important.
		 
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  Yeah I have. Have you ever seen Paul Elam talk about women? |  
Yes. You do realize he's not the only one interviewed in the film. Methinks you haven't actually seen the film in it's entirety
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:35 AM | #32 |  
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					Originally Posted by CliffFletcher  You don't think pointing out systematic institutional and media bias against boys and young men is worthwhile? It seems to be regarded as tremendously worthwhile by other identity groups. |  
I don't buy that a "systematic institutional and media bias against boys and young men" exists.
 
I also don't think dragging out a story from 2012 is proof of anything other than something for people to bitch about.
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					Originally Posted by Matata  wtf does this mean? |  
That a chat group that someone tried to start at SFU in 2012 is inconsequential.
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			The real irony is that the patriarchy hurts both men and women equally, but MRAs believe it's the fault of women and soft, docile and spineless liberal men that they are pressured to act manly 24/7.
		 
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  The real irony is that the patriarchy hurts both men and women equally, but MRAs believe it's the fault of women and soft, docile and spineless liberal men that they are pressured to act manly 24/7. |  
No, I'm pretty sure the real irony is you pretending you acknowledge that men might have issues too while loudly campaigning against any attempt to discuss/address them or even have a support group. But carry on.
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			Personally, I much prefer to talk to females when it comes to personal issues and struggles.  Even as a man, my ideal "safe place" would be a man-free zone.
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:48 AM | #37 |  
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					Originally Posted by Cain  No, I'm pretty sure the real irony is you pretending you acknowledge that men might have issues too while loudly campaigning against any attempt to discuss/address them or even have a support group. But carry on. |  
I guess being the sole voice of dissent against hate groups makes me a pariah "loudly campaigning" against something.
 
But I'm sure you guys are out volunteering your time at men's shelters and mental support groups each week right?
		 
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  I don't buy that a "systematic institutional and media bias against boys and young men" exists. |  
Boys are falling further and further behind girls at every level of school, are five times more likely to be prescribed with behaviour-altering drugs, four times more likely to drop out of school, and are fifty per cent less likely to go on to post-secondary education - and you don't think there's any chance there's institutional bias against boys in the education system? A system where over 70 per cent of teachers are women?
 
Is there any logical reason why the gender disparity in STEM fields has attracted enormous media attention and public policy action, while the gender disparity favouring women in pretty much every other field of study, including law, medicine, accounting, and teaching receives no media attention? When I've mentioned to people that women make up 62 per cent of medical school students in Canada today, and 55 per cent of law school students, they're often surprised. Why do you think those figures aren't as widely publicized as the figures around STEM?
 
At one point in my daughter's parent-teacher interviews a couple months ago, the teacher exclaimed "If only they could all be little girls!" The other two teachers in the classroom at the time both laughed and nodded.
 
Institutional bias against boys? Impossible. We live in a patriarchy!
 
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  I also don't think dragging out a story from 2012 is proof of anything other than something for people to bitch about. |  
The article I posted is six months old. I'm pretty sure the Ryerson case is still ongoing.
		 
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  I guess being the sole voice of dissent against hate groups makes me a pariah "loudly campaigning" against something.
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  But I'm sure you guys are out volunteering your time at men's shelters and mental support groups each week right? |  
What public service do you carry out, besides being a social media troll?
		 
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