Brad Treliving on Sportsnet 960 (Full Hour)

[Bar-Down]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So… Get rid of Brouwer, because signing 30-something wingers to UFA deals doesn't work out, and then sign Williams because…?

This team needs some good veteran presence, which is the only thing Brouwer brings. Williams can bring offense and leadership.

He's a clutch playoff performer with multiple cups. He also has great underlying numbers.

I'd rather Williams at 2 years around 3 million vs. Brouwer at his contract or Oshie at the massive contract he will sign this off season.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

Somehow getting rid of all 3 of Bouma, Stajan and Brouwer would be ideal.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Justin Williams (2 years @ 3mill per)
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Bennett - Ferland
Lazar - Jankowski - Chiasson
F.Hamilton/Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Alzner - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Schneider
Johnson

Does this lineup get you to the playoffs and deep into the playoffs? I don't think that it does(you may make the playoffs but not far.)

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

Treliving really needs to figure out the goaltending.

I am hoping he can pull off a blockbuster somehow. Schneider/Price to put the goalie carousel to rest for good.

I am just tired of these "band-aid" fixes every summer. Getting a legit No.1 would make me very excited for next season.

If the Flames had a Murray, Rinne, Anderson, or Talbot it's entirely possible they're playing in the finals this year.

Goaltending has to be solved properly this summer.

2017 1st, Gillies, Kylington for Schneider?

2017 1st, Gillies, Bennett for a signed Carey Price?

Too much, too little?

Problem is you need a dance partner to get a goalie like that. If the other team doesn't want to move their #1 goalie you have to massively overpay to get him, and even that might not work.

Schneider has term on his deal, so in that case you are hooped if they don't want to part with him.

Price has just one year remaining, so the hope there is that he is reluctant to sign an extension after July 1st, leaving Bergevin to contemplate the risk of having Price walk for nothing next summer if he doesn't move him this summer. In that case there is a glimmer of hope that Price wants to go West (where he and his wife grew up) and that Calgary is close enough for them, and that he views CGY's roster as one that can get a Cup with him helping and doesn't need him to drag them from lottery team to division winner like he does with the Habs.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

Somehow getting rid of all 3 of Bouma, Stajan and Brouwer would be ideal.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Justin Williams (2 years @ 3mill per)
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Bennett - Ferland
Lazar - Jankowski - Chiasson
F.Hamilton/Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Alzner - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Schneider
Johnson

Originally Posted by Par

Does this lineup get you to the playoffs and deep into the playoffs? I don't think that it does(you may make the playoffs but not far.)

It's better than this year's lineup, especially in goal and the bottom pairing D. So I don't see how it doesn't get you to the POs, since this years team got in (and would have been in comfortably absent a bunch of bad stuff happening off the bat).

Deep? Considering that the Flames could have beaten Anaheim absent a couple sub-par goaltending efforts (and I was never an Elliott hater) I think that lineup can get you into the second round. After that - who knows (see what the Preds have done even without their best forward, mainly on the strength of defence and mostly good play by Rinne).

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

This team needs some good veteran presence, which is the only thing Brouwer brings. Williams can bring offense and leadership.

He's a clutch playoff performer with multiple cups. He also has great underlying numbers.

And he's 35 years old, and will be 36 by the time next season starts. At that point, as they say in the securities business, ‘past performance is not indicative of future results’.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Par

Does this lineup get you to the playoffs and deep into the playoffs? I don't think that it does(you may make the playoffs but not far.)

That lineup is definitely good enough to go deep into the playoffs. Adding one of the best goalies in the world - that alone could be enough. Factor in development of some of our younger guys and I'd say we're definitely a second round team if not better... which at this point in the rebuild is just fine with me.

[Tinordi]

Brouwer can't hold Williams' jock.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Brouwer can't hold Williams' jock.

I am sure he could, but why would he want to? ewww

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Hopefully that kills the rumors that Ferklund is going to either be moved or exposed "(HF garbage)

Originally Posted by Isikiz

Treliving was pretty high on Ferland, saying that he feels like he's "only skimming the surface." Also said that he views him as a high skill player.

I'm not suggesting the rumours have any credibility, but he could very well be trying to up his trade value by saying this. Which a good gm should be doing with all his players anyways.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

This team needs some good veteran presence, which is the only thing Brouwer brings. Williams can bring offense and leadership.

He's a clutch playoff performer with multiple cups. He also has great underlying numbers.

I'd rather Williams at 2 years around 3 million vs. Brouwer at his contract or Oshie at the massive contract he will sign this off season.

Even that is debatable when he is not showing much by example. We had too many vets on the team last season going through the motions. I liked it better when we had guys up challenging for those spots. We need young guys getting their feet wet and pushing those lazy efforts a little harder.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's so hard to trade for an elite goalie. You either draft one (in what position doesn't seem to matter), like Price or Rinne, or trade for a promising backup, and hope they pan out, like Kipper. Even a move like Talbot works out only some of the time. Roman Turek was the highest touted backup in the NHL when the Flames got him.

Bishop is the only top goalie I can recall getting moved in recent history. Miller and Luongo were moved but quite a few years after being a Vezina candidate.

He was a starter in St.Louis...they got him as a highly touted backup from Dallas

[dammage79]

I for one, am supremely impressed with this hour of power from Treliving. Not a once did I hear about "The Process".

My takes:
*Jankowski has a spot on the roster, it's his to lose.
* Pointed out my qualms with Ferland, consistency. We know he has the toolbox, he really needs to use it all 82 games.
* If they can get Stone back, they will. I'm keen to see how they fill the last two spots on D if they can get Stone back.
* Pick #16 is going to be awesome. Who will it be? Better scour deeper into the top 50.

I for one really like Treliving. I truly think he does enough work that all his moves are made being the most informed man in the league.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Par

Does this lineup get you to the playoffs and deep into the playoffs? I don't think that it does(you may make the playoffs but not far.)

If you were to analyze Nashville's lineup at the start of the season did you think that lineup would at worst come within 2 wins of winning it all?

I'm not saying Calgary's would match up with Nashville, but if some of the younger guys did improve a bit, it could get close.

Since the 05-06 lockout, there have been 3 teams who were the 8th place team get to the cup, and in all cases this lower seed team at least was highly competitive in the series. Yes an elite team will have more shots at being in the playoffs, and being successful. But in any given playoffs, it is looking like anyone can make a push.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He was a starter in St.Louis...they got him as a highly touted backup from Dallas

You are correct, sir. Man, I'm getting old.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Treliving confirms they would like to have Versteeg back, talked to his agent recently.

Has higher priorities with goal tending and blue line but will get back to him.

Excellent. Most underrated player on the NHL

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Excellent. Most underrated player on the NHL

Versteeg is a decent depth guy but I don't know that he's the most underrated guy in the NHL...

Definitely would like to see him come back if he's willing to sign between $1-$2 mil AAV. Any more than that and I think you let him go.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Versteeg is a decent depth guy but I don't know that he's the most underrated guy in the NHL...

Definitely would like to see him come back if he's willing to sign between $1-$2 mil AAV. Any more than that and I think you let him go.

TheScorpian is known for huge love for middling players. David Jones has been replaced by Kris Versteeg.

I don't mean any offense by that comment just an observation that he is a fan that loves role players which is fine

[Erick Estrada]

So we have Mike Smith and Justin Williams penciled in? Any other 35+ year old players we can add to help take this team over the top? Maybe Iggy will come back? Get Regehr out of retirement. I see him almost weekly of late and he looks like he's still in shape.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So we have Mike Smith and Justin Williams penciled in? Any other 35+ year old players we can add to help take this team over the top?

Jagr

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So we have Mike Smith and Justin Williams penciled in? Any other 35+ year old players we can add to help take this team over the top?

Well now that you mention it....



Edit: beaten to it.