American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kerriffic

Omg Vicente Fox with the ultimate troll job video.

https://twitter.com/vicentefoxque/st...67686357434369

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Haha, that's gold from start to finish.

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by kerriffic

Omg Vicente Fox with the ultimate troll job video.

https://twitter.com/vicentefoxque/st...67686357434369

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Wow.

Over the line on one part, but very, very effective.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Thor

northcrunk, why do you distrust WaPo so much and what sources do you trust for news?

First site I check in the morning is www.nationalnewswatch.com

There are questions regarding CIA funding to the WaPo. Jeff Bezos received a $600 million contract from the CIA. Twice what he paid for the WaPo.

I feel like today we need to check every source of news we can and read them knowing the bias they are coming from. I used to frequent CNN up until the recent year when they were busted faking protests and have become the same as fox news during the bush years. There doesn't seem to be any MSM anymore that does not takes sides and twist their narratives.

I check local papers (usually Calgary and Edmonton)
National publications in Canada - Globe and Mail, National Post, Macleans
Too many You tube channels to list. Multiple left and right leaning sites. If there is a story in the national news I will usually check on the local reporting. A good example was the Anti-fa bike lock attacker. CNN didn't report on the arrest but the local news was very informative about it. The guy is facing 40 years in prison for 6 felonies which wasn't reported at a National level.

I like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Stefan Molyneux and some other right and left leaning Youtube personalities which I agree with and don't. To list all the sites I visit would take a while and I'm sure I would miss some. It's rare I find a reporter who's views actually line up with mine but I'm fairly similar politically to Tim Pool. I just want the facts whether it makes the left or right look good or bad. Don't really care.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Based on how often he says it, I've started reading northcrunk's name as north####.

Don't give me ideas

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Can we stop using this word?

It really brings down the quality of the site, and quite frankly although I know you don't care that it makes you look bad, I don't want to be painted with the same brush.

He is still so not over Kellie Leitch losing the leadership race.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Wow.

Over the line on one part, but very, very effective.

You can't really go over the line with a man who said 'grab em by the #####' and still got elected.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

He is still so not over Kellie Leitch losing the leadership race.

hahahaha riiiiiight. That's it. Because she is such a winner

[FlameOn]

Trump's approval rating dropped to its lowest point ever: 34%. This is below the threshold of 35% that previous posters and analysts have said would cause huge impacts for the Republican party and would likely be the point at which GOP members would consider abandoning presidential support.

President Donald Trump's approval rating fell to a new low on Wednesday, dropping from 37% to 34%, according to a new poll conducted by Quinnipiac University.

The poll found that 57% of voters disapprove of the president's performance, a figure approaching Trump's record high of 58% from April.

Trump's approval rating was heavily correlated to party affiliation — 81% of Republican respondents expressed approval of Trump's performance, while a paltry 4% of Democrats said the same. Trump earned praise from 35% of independents.

The poll caps a two-week period that was fraught with unpopular moves from the president. Last week, Trump announced his intent to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, a move that 62% of poll respondents disapproved of. The president was earned scorn last week for criticizing the mayor of London in the aftermath of a deadly terrorist attack in London.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...e-comey-2017-6

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

He is still so not over Kellie Leitch losing the leadership race.

You should really cool it on the personal attacks when you don't know anything about me. There is no ####ing way I would support a clown like her.

[dino7c]

somehow I have lost confidence in poll numbers

maybe the millennials and hippies won't throw away their vote for a 3rd party next time...until then I think we are stuck with this clown

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by dino7c

somehow I have lost confidence in poll numbers

maybe the millennials and hippies won't throw away their vote for a 3rd party next time...until then I think we are stuck with this clown

The problem with polls has always been the people who actually answer them. You don't get a full demographic picture of peoples opinions. You end up with the opinions of whoever is willing to sit there on the phone with pollsters answer questions for 30 to 60 min so it is usually older people with land lines who respond. We would have a better cross section of people but less reliable data doing online polling. I don't know what the best way is.

[FlameOn]

Aside from all the scandal, GOP ideology took a big blow today with Kansas voting to revoke the trickle down economic policies that have killed it's state budgets. The Replublican state legislators overrode the Governor's veto and rolled back the tax plan that had seen huge tax cuts to high income taxpayers that resulted in huge drops in state revenue as well as economic growth.

Contrast this with California where they voted to increase taxes on high income taxpayers where the revenue has increased substantially and economic growth has gone the other way.

From the moment he said it, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback (R) took heat for calling his push to drastically cut taxes in his state a “real live experiment.” As a general rule, people like to have their experiments conducted in laboratories with safe controls, not on state finances that affect health care and education.

But Brownback was right. It was an experiment. And on Tuesday night, the Republican legislature in the state deemed it a failure, voting to override Brownback’s veto and increase income taxes cut under the 2012 bill.

Duane Goossen of the Kansas Center for Economic Growth walked The Washington Post through the numbers on Wednesday.

The tax-cut bill began to affect the state’s bottom line in the 2014 fiscal year (running from July 2013 to June 2014), Goossen said. From 2013 to 2014, the change in income tax rates meant $700 million less was coming into the state — a reduction of nearly a quarter of the revenue from that source.

...
Since the state has to have a balanced budget, the drop in revenue immediately forced the legislature to come up with ways to reduce spending. The state depleted its reserves, moved hundreds of millions from its highway fund to its general fund, borrowed money and raised its sales taxes.

Contrast Kansas with the state of California and the country overall. Kansas has performed much worse than the country on job growth, relative to a January 2011 baseline. California has over-performed.

Why single out California? Because as Kansas was performing its experiment, California was performing one of its own, putting into place a new tax on high-income residents in the state. Over the past few years, the state has seen budget surpluses, though that may change as two-thirds of states project upcoming deficits.

Look for the examples of California and Kansas to be cited in income-tax debates for decades to come. Sometimes, experiments don’t have the results you were looking for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...9bce5#comments

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

He is still so not over Kellie Leitch losing the leadership race.

Originally Posted by north####

You should really cool it on the personal attacks when you don't know anything about me. There is no ####ing way I would support a clown like her.

That's a personal attack?

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

First site I check in the morning is www.nationalnewswatch.com

There are questions regarding CIA funding to the WaPo. Jeff Bezos received a $600 million contract from the CIA. Twice what he paid for the WaPo.

I feel like today we need to check every source of news we can and read them knowing the bias they are coming from. I used to frequent CNN up until the recent year when they were busted faking protests and have become the same as fox news during the bush years. There doesn't seem to be any MSM anymore that does not takes sides and twist their narratives.

I check local papers (usually Calgary and Edmonton)
National publications in Canada - Globe and Mail, National Post, Macleans
Too many You tube channels to list. Multiple left and right leaning sites. If there is a story in the national news I will usually check on the local reporting. A good example was the Anti-fa bike lock attacker. CNN didn't report on the arrest but the local news was very informative about it. The guy is facing 40 years in prison for 6 felonies which wasn't reported at a National level.

I like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Stefan Molyneux and some other right and left leaning Youtube personalities which I agree with and don't. To list all the sites I visit would take a while and I'm sure I would miss some. It's rare I find a reporter who's views actually line up with mine but I'm fairly similar politically to Tim Pool. I just want the facts whether it makes the left or right look good or bad. Don't really care.

You need stop reading Zero Hedge.

[northcrunk]

Never heard of it. What's Zero Hedge?

[Thor]

WaPo and the CIA stuff is a big story on infowars and that crowd.

Do you believe that he is directing Benzos to have employees cover certain stories and lead talking points like Fox news and Roger Ailes?

Considering the people who work there like Bob Woodward and the countless respected people who work there.

Benzos doing a business deal for cloud storage does not equate to a massive conspiracy to turn a long time stalwart of trust and respect in the news industry.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Aside from all the scandal, GOP ideology took a big blow today with Kansas voting to revoke the trickle down economic policies that have killed it's state budgets. The Replublican state legislators overrode the Governor's veto and rolled back the tax plan that had seen huge tax cuts to high income taxpayers that resulted in huge drops in state revenue as well as economic growth.

Contrast this with California where they voted to increase taxes on high income taxpayers where the revenue has increased substantially and economic growth has gone the other way.

I believe you saw the same thing between Minnesota and Wisconsin starting 5 or so years ago. Dayton's Minnesota went with the liberal strategy and the Walker's Wisconsin went traditional GOP.

Minnesota is winning with better growth and better outlook to the future.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Thor

WaPo and the CIA stuff is a big story on infowars and that crowd.

Do you believe that he is directing Benzos to have employees cover certain stories and lead talking points like Fox news and Roger Ailes?

Considering the people who work there like Bob Woodward and the countless respected people who work there.

Benzos doing a business deal for cloud storage does not equate to a massive conspiracy to turn a long time stalwart of trust and respect in the news industry.

I'm not saying it does but it's a question that probably should be asked. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and have no inside knowledge of the inner workings of the WaPo. I'm not saying don't read it or they lie but like every main stream news source you need to read it through a filter and take it for what it usually is. I'm speaking mainly about political coverage and opinion. They don't always give full disclosure like many other news sources.

[direwolf]

Saw this on Facebook and it gave me a chuckle. Only $30? Those are some cheap tickets.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

First site I check in the morning is www.nationalnewswatch.com

There are questions regarding CIA funding to the WaPo. Jeff Bezos received a $600 million contract from the CIA. Twice what he paid for the WaPo.

I feel like today we need to check every source of news we can and read them knowing the bias they are coming from. I used to frequent CNN up until the recent year when they were busted faking protests and have become the same as fox news during the bush years. There doesn't seem to be any MSM anymore that does not takes sides and twist their narratives.

I check local papers (usually Calgary and Edmonton)
National publications in Canada - Globe and Mail, National Post, Macleans
Too many You tube channels to list. Multiple left and right leaning sites. If there is a story in the national news I will usually check on the local reporting. A good example was the Anti-fa bike lock attacker. CNN didn't report on the arrest but the local news was very informative about it. The guy is facing 40 years in prison for 6 felonies which wasn't reported at a National level.

I like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Stefan Molyneux and some other right and left leaning Youtube personalities which I agree with and don't. To list all the sites I visit would take a while and I'm sure I would miss some. It's rare I find a reporter who's views actually line up with mine but I'm fairly similar politically to Tim Pool. I just want the facts whether it makes the left or right look good or bad. Don't really care.

CNN faked protests? Are you taking about this:http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/